Aaron Rodgers -- Hurt or just playing very poorly thus far

[MadtownPacker]

Seriously, Partial and a couple other guys are not even Packer fans, and should either hit up a Favre forum or a Vikings forum.

Who bitch? The big hype game is this week and we gotta talk about it. Find your ass a knitting forum if you want some peaceful discussion.

[Gunakor]

For everything AR has had to deal with, from horrible protection to receivers not getting open, he is one of only 3 starting quarterbacks not to have thrown an interception through the first 3 games. His QB rating is nearly 100. A few QB's have one more victory under his belt this seaon than Aaron has. No QB has two more.

While he has things he needs to improve on, just as the rest of the team does, there's a reason the national media doesn't share your pessimistic view of our QB situation. He hasn't performed THAT poorly. But you wouldn't realize that he wasn't performing THAT poorly if you won't look at the things he's done RIGHT so far this season. For someone so spoiled by years of HOF caliber QB play it might be tough, with such lofty expectations and all. But give it a shot. Hell, you might even surprise yourself.

[MadtownPacker]

I think last year and the preseason might have made those expectation higher.

[Partial]

If I would concede the point that Aaron Rodgers is playing poorly, would you also concede that anyone ranked lower than him statistically is also playing poorly?

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=PASSING&season=2009&seasonType=REG

Check out the quarterbacks ranked #7 and #8. Their statistics are quite similar.

Don't care about stats in this case. He is playing okay but not what is expected given the firepower of the offense as a sum of parts.

[Partial]

For everything AR has had to deal with, from horrible protection to receivers not getting open, he is one of only 3 starting quarterbacks not to have thrown an interception through the first 3 games. His QB rating is nearly 100. A few QB's have one more victory under his belt this seaon than Aaron has. No QB has two more.

While he has things he needs to improve on, just as the rest of the team does, there's a reason the national media doesn't share your pessimistic view of our QB situation. He hasn't performed THAT poorly. But you wouldn't realize that he wasn't performing THAT poorly if you won't look at the things he's done RIGHT so far this season. For someone so spoiled by years of HOF caliber QB play it might be tough, with such lofty expectations and all. But give it a shot. Hell, you might even surprise yourself.

That's because 3 games have only been played. That's not fair at all.

National media doesn't watch the games. He has played pretty bad thus far. For all the picks Cutty has thrown, he is making plays like a fiend. Two come back wins on a team without any quality offensive talent outside of him, Knox and the returner. And the RB, he is great too.

[mission]

I was being sarcastic as usual.

He's not lights out and has definitely held the ball too long at times but he hasn't turned the ball over and he's played well when it mattered.

Would I love to see him play better? Absolutely. But that's going to come down to having time to make some plays and I think the line will be getting tighter as the year goes on.

[Gunakor]

For everything AR has had to deal with, from horrible protection to receivers not getting open, he is one of only 3 starting quarterbacks not to have thrown an interception through the first 3 games. His QB rating is nearly 100. A few QB's have one more victory under his belt this seaon than Aaron has. No QB has two more.

While he has things he needs to improve on, just as the rest of the team does, there's a reason the national media doesn't share your pessimistic view of our QB situation. He hasn't performed THAT poorly. But you wouldn't realize that he wasn't performing THAT poorly if you won't look at the things he's done RIGHT so far this season. For someone so spoiled by years of HOF caliber QB play it might be tough, with such lofty expectations and all. But give it a shot. Hell, you might even surprise yourself.

That's because 3 games have only been played. That's not fair at all.

National media doesn't watch the games. He has played pretty bad thus far. For all the picks Cutty has thrown, he is making plays like a fiend. Two come back wins on a team without any quality offensive talent outside of him, Knox and the returner. And the RB, he is great too.

It's only 3 games in, you're right. And yet 29 other quarterbacks have already thrown that first interception already. Rodgers isn't one of them. I'd say it's very fair to mention that at this point.

[SkinBasket]

Rodgers could be the 3rd rated QB in the league right now if most of those drops were caught. Even the slight overthrow to Driver in the endzone this week still hit him in the goddamn hands.

As it is, he's 7th despite having a 56.7 completion percentage. If only 6 of those drops stay in the hands of our "receivers" he's at 63% and in line with the rest of the top QBs in the league. And maybe he has another TD or 2. And maybe we wouldn't have senseless fucking threads like this each week.

[The Shadow]

Rodgers has been playing poorly?
When?

[mraynrand]

This thread blows

[Tony Oday]

3 50 yard + bombs to Jennings=big plays

scrambling for a TD = big play

scrambling for 1st downs = big plays

no picks = big plays

He is having a good year. projecting out to 3500 yards and 21 TDs...not HOF but a good solid year...would we ALL like more? HELL YEAH! but I like not turning the ball over.

[HarveyWallbangers]

He is having a good year. projecting out to 3500 yards and 21 TDs...not HOF but a good solid year...would we ALL like more? HELL YEAH! but I like not turning the ball over.

Technically, he's on pace for 3808 yards, 21 TDs, 0 interceptions, and 469 rushing yards. And 10+ wins.

[Tony Oday]

He is having a good year. projecting out to 3500 yards and 21 TDs...not HOF but a good solid year...would we ALL like more? HELL YEAH! but I like not turning the ball over.

Technically, he's on pace for 3808 yards, 21 TDs, 0 interceptions, and 469 rushing yards. And 10+ wins.

yes Technically

[red]

its very obvious that you're either not watching the games, or your just trying to stir shit

rodgers throws are very crisp and almost always right where they need to be, with maybe a couple exceptions a game

i'd say most of his drops, not all, but most have been placed right where they needed to be. they were not high, or low or behind. balls have been bouncing off guys hands and chests

being in the pocket while its caving in around you is called poise, its what you dream of your qb's having

what i've seen through 3 games is a line that cannot get it done, which means we have less targets to throw to and also means the recievers that do go out are getting blanketed

there is nowhere for grant to run, so teams can gear up for the pass. they showed many replays yesterday and there was absolutely no place for rodgers to throw to


one thing i did notice and agree on is that it looks like all the hits he's taking are starting to get to him. the long passes were thrown too short causing the wr's to slow up for the ball. this is something he's never had problems with until the regular season started and he started getting killed


i would also like to see MM work with him to run the ball after a couple seconds if no one is open. it seems the o line is letting the d rush into the backfield, rodgers steps up to avoid the sack, and then no one can get open. then he sits and waits. i'd like to see him take off. this might keep a lb or 2 out of coverage and maybe open up the passing game

i paid more attention to the o-line yesterday, and they are really really bad right now. i think its obvious that this is the root of our problems

[falco]

Don't care about stats in this case.

By "in this case," he means when they contradict him.