Aaron Rodgers -- Hurt or just playing very poorly thus far

[Fritz]

Y'know, I felt kinda bad from time to time when it seemed like people were piling on to Partial or egging him on.

Not any more.

He likes it! Hey Mikey!

[MJZiggy]

I don't know if any of y'all were LISTENING to the game, but they quoted some guy named Donald Driver who said that the drops this season were due to a lack of focus on the receivers' part and not the passes that were thrown...

Maybe that clarifies things for you, 'cause I hear this Driver dude knows some stuff about football.

[pbmax]

2008 Time of Possession: 31:37 Packers 28:56 Opponents

2009 Time of Possession: 27:49 Packers 32:10 Opponents

Not like 2008, when we won the battle despite playing poorly on D.

But in 2009, as its only 3 games in, this can change quickly. Especially since the first two games were against reasonably good defenses.

And since the Packers are +8 turnovers, they are not giving up the short field to the opposition.

[vince]

*sigh*. You guys just don't get it.

Right Parsh. Everyone is clueless and you are the sole source of supreme football analysis. Apparently, your venerable analyst McGinn doesn't get it either, and those defensive players playing against the Packers this week are clueless too damn it!

...the performance of Aaron Rodgers and deep threats Greg Jennings and Donald Driver probably brought back memories for Rams fans of the vast firepower their team had not that long ago.

"They have a great quarterback and he's a great leader," Rams defensive tackle Clifton Ryan said. "We saw him on film all week. No matter how hard you're rushing them, he's going to find a way to kill you. He did that today. He's a hell of a player. . . a hell of a player."

Although Rodgers passed for 269 yards, it wasn't like he had receivers running wide open. Spagnuolo, who two seasons ago as the New York Giants' defensive coordinator shut down Tom Brady and the New England Patriots in the Super Bowl, has three good cover cornerbacks and generally had them in position.

The crux of the matter, according to 12th-year defensive end Leonard Little, was Rodgers' pinpoint accuracy.

"A lot of times we had a DB right on (the receiver)," said Little. "And he threw it in the right spot. He did a real good job."

[packerbacker1234]

Look, AR hasn't been great. You can say what you want about AR "carrying the team" against the rams... BUT IT'S THE RAMS. He completed 3 Long balls, not 5 (as someone suggested) and he overthrew two others. Naturally, you can't hit "every" long ball, but his misses? So far this year every missed throw on the long ball was a guarenteed TD pass. Every one of them. Yeah, he hit 3 good long balls in the game against the rams, but were any of them as good as the two he missed on? On two he missed, the WR's were gone. Float them the ball and bam, TD.

Look, AR is not a bad QB, but I do think all of us have gotten too high on him too soon. He isn't perfect, and I am starting to think this whole "lack of turning it over" is showing a "lack of taking a chance". It's easy to throw a ball deep to a 1 on 1 guy, minimal risk. It's a lot different on 3rd and 6 and just eating a sack or throwing it away. IT's fine doing that now and then, but every time?

AR isn't a "great" QB yet, but he's above average. He just... seems to be missing something. I can't pinpoint what it is, but he is definitely missing something.

[vince]

You're way off man. Rodgers isn't average. He's "playing very poor." You just don't get it. He's killing our defense.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Look, AR is not a bad QB, but I do think all of us have gotten too high on him too soon. He isn't perfect, and I am starting to think this whole "lack of turning it over" is showing a "lack of taking a chance". It's easy to throw a ball deep to a 1 on 1 guy, minimal risk.

That's called good decision making. You want him to start throwing high risk passes which could lead to a pick? Well then you'd be bitching about he's not making good decisions and throwing into poor situations.

He's not a high-risk taking QB, get over it.

[SkinBasket]

*sigh*. You guys just don't get it.

Yes, we know. We'll never be as smart or insightful as you. It breaks our stupid little hearts.

[mmmdk]

Rodgers has been playing poorly?
When?

I don't get it either. A-Rod has been our offense the first 3 weeks.

[mmmdk]

I don't know if any of y'all were LISTENING to the game, but they quoted some guy named Donald Driver who said that the drops this season were due to a lack of focus on the receivers' part and not the passes that were thrown...

Maybe that clarifies things for you, 'cause I hear this Driver dude knows some stuff about football.

Amen!

[packerbacker1234]

Look, AR is not a bad QB, but I do think all of us have gotten too high on him too soon. He isn't perfect, and I am starting to think this whole "lack of turning it over" is showing a "lack of taking a chance". It's easy to throw a ball deep to a 1 on 1 guy, minimal risk.

That's called good decision making. You want him to start throwing high risk passes which could lead to a pick? Well then you'd be bitching about he's not making good decisions and throwing into poor situations.

He's not a high-risk taking QB, get over it.

How many wins has MR Rodgers gotten with his present decision making. Holding on to the ball too long, not willing to take "any" chances, and thus forcing our defense on the field all game. How man wins? 8 out of 20? Look, I like Rodgers, and safe decisions are fine. It will always keep you in the game: But how long are we going to Rely on Mr. Woodson picking off hte ball for our offense to score points? I don't think our defense is as bad as people make it out to be. The fact remains: They are always on the field. This punting business is getting old. Yeah, maybe he takes a chance and gets picked, or maybe he takes a chance and something happens. Hell, even Manning and Brady take more "chances" they AR.

The guy holds on to the ball when he shouldn't. He's good, he's better then I expected, but he is handcuffing the team almost as much as the OL is. I mean, say what you want on how he IS the offense, then step back and start looking at how many points our DEFENSE has SET UP the offense to get, then get back to me.

[cheesner]

Look, AR is not a bad QB, but I do think all of us have gotten too high on him too soon. He isn't perfect, and I am starting to think this whole "lack of turning it over" is showing a "lack of taking a chance". It's easy to throw a ball deep to a 1 on 1 guy, minimal risk.

That's called good decision making. You want him to start throwing high risk passes which could lead to a pick? Well then you'd be bitching about he's not making good decisions and throwing into poor situations.

He's not a high-risk taking QB, get over it.

How many wins has MR Rodgers gotten with his present decision making. Holding on to the ball too long, not willing to take "any" chances, and thus forcing our defense on the field all game. How man wins? 2 out of 3? Look, I like Rodgers, and safe decisions are fine. It will always keep you in the game: But how long are we going to Rely on Mr. Woodson picking off hte ball for our offense to score points? I don't think our defense is as bad as people make it out to be. The fact remains: They are always on the field. This punting business is getting old. Yeah, maybe he takes a chance and gets picked, or maybe he takes a chance and something happens. Hell, even Manning and Brady take more "chances" they AR.

The guy holds on to the ball when he shouldn't. He's good, he's better then I expected, but he is handcuffing the team almost as much as the OL is. I mean, say what you want on how he IS the offense, then step back and start looking at how many points our DEFENSE has SET UP the offense to get, then get back to me.

Fixed.

I am considering when AR has had a defense that provided support and didn't give up easy last minute come from behind wins (this year).

I think AR can play better than he has in the first 3 games. I think it is a matter of the OL not giving him the protection he needs and it has him rattled a bit. He has played well given that and hopefully he picks things up. This is only his 2nd year starting and I don't think people remember how long it has taken for past Packer legendary QBs to become good. The last one, (what was his name?) was only so-so after 3 or 4 years. I remember when he became a FA and only got one offer and that was from NO. No other teams even pursued him. He wasn't that good. He became great. And AR is much better at this point in his career.

[vince]

This punting business is getting old.

I guess to some, any time a team punts, it gets old. Here are facts. The Packers are ranked 11th in the league thus far in fewest punts. They'll likely be in the top 10 after Dallas and Carolina catch up in games played tonight. No turnovers for Rodgers. Surely you don't expect a touchdown every possession...

[packerbacker1234]

I am considering when AR has had a defense that provided support and didn't give up easy last minute come from behind wins (this year).

Oh, so your considering the defense that has set up half our points, verses a offense that can score consistently without that.

My bad.

[Waldo]

Look, AR hasn't been great. You can say what you want about AR "carrying the team" against the rams... BUT IT'S THE RAMS. He completed 3 Long balls, not 5 (as someone suggested) and he overthrew two others. Naturally, you can't hit "every" long ball, but his misses? So far this year every missed throw on the long ball was a guarenteed TD pass. Every one of them. Yeah, he hit 3 good long balls in the game against the rams, but were any of them as good as the two he missed on? On two he missed, the WR's were gone. Float them the ball and bam, TD.

Look, AR is not a bad QB, but I do think all of us have gotten too high on him too soon. He isn't perfect, and I am starting to think this whole "lack of turning it over" is showing a "lack of taking a chance". It's easy to throw a ball deep to a 1 on 1 guy, minimal risk. It's a lot different on 3rd and 6 and just eating a sack or throwing it away. IT's fine doing that now and then, but every time?

AR isn't a "great" QB yet, but he's above average. He just... seems to be missing something. I can't pinpoint what it is, but he is definitely missing something.

You have seen Brett Favre play football, correct?

He completed just as many passes to the opposition as he did to his own team when he went deep.

Hove you forgotten the wind-up gasp?

I believe that AR was the only QB to average more than a 50% completion % on bombs last season.