Is Ryan Grant Really the Answer at Running Back?

[Gunakor]

] Day one should be spent on protecting our QB.

Well said, Gun. We gotta get some 1at round OTs. I still like Raji, but damn those OT's look like fucking sieves, no?

I'm guessing this is Cliffy's last year whether he gets healthy or not. So we need 2 OT's. Even if Ted Thompson was Daniel Snyder he couldn't fill 2 OT positions with adequate players thru FA in the same offseason. We're gonna need at least one through the draft, and it had better come from either of the first 2 rounds.

I was happy with the Raji pick. We needed OT's and there were some to be had, but lets be honest. Going into the draft, most of us would have been delighted if TT spent every one of his picks on the defensive side of the ball. That defense was horrible last year. Change in scheme meant we needed players that could get the job done in that scheme. And Raji is gonna be a stud NT in the future when Pickett is done. I loved that pick. And Matthews looks like he might just be worth the fleecing Thompson took to get him here. I'm very happy with the way the first round turned out this year.

Again....you have so much knowledgable shit to agree with...I agree to all of it as, usual....but again, this thread is about Ryan Grant.

He sucks.

Hey, I was just responding to your post.

Well said, Gun. We gotta get some 1at round OTs. I still like Raji, but damn those OT's look like fucking sieves, no?

[SnakeLH2006]

] Day one should be spent on protecting our QB.

Well said, Gun. We gotta get some 1at round OTs. I still like Raji, but damn those OT's look like fucking sieves, no?

I'm guessing this is Cliffy's last year whether he gets healthy or not. So we need 2 OT's. Even if Ted Thompson was Daniel Snyder he couldn't fill 2 OT positions with adequate players thru FA in the same offseason. We're gonna need at least one through the draft, and it had better come from either of the first 2 rounds.

I was happy with the Raji pick. We needed OT's and there were some to be had, but lets be honest. Going into the draft, most of us would have been delighted if TT spent every one of his picks on the defensive side of the ball. That defense was horrible last year. Change in scheme meant we needed players that could get the job done in that scheme. And Raji is gonna be a stud NT in the future when Pickett is done. I loved that pick. And Matthews looks like he might just be worth the fleecing Thompson took to get him here. I'm very happy with the way the first round turned out this year.

Again....you have so much knowledgable shit to agree with...I agree to all of it as, usual....but again, this thread is about Ryan Grant.

He sucks.

Hey, I was just responding to your post.

Well said, Gun. We gotta get some 1at round OTs. I still like Raji, but damn those OT's look like fucking sieves, no?

I know buddy, but trying to get this Grant train rolling one way or the other. I agree with EVERYTHING you said, but Grant is a sieve at RB. He ain't shit.

[sheepshead]

Never thought he was and I was very surprised TT didnt address it in the draft. Of course-I was almost alone with those posts.

[3irty1]

What I wouldn't give to see Grant bust off a long run like back in the 2007 days. If it happened Monday it would be extra sweet.

[retailguy]

Never thought he was and I was very surprised TT didnt address it in the draft. Of course-I was almost alone with those posts.

Say what? Lots of us on this train. But the small vocal "Ted can do no wrong crowd" kind of drown us all out. (which you are largely a part of)

Grant is at best serviceable. But he needs a line to run behind. We don't have one. Therefore, Grant can't run.

[get louder at lambeau]

I see Grant as a guy who doesn't have a lot of talent, but works his ass off to be able to compete at a starting NFL level. He's not very shifty or fast, but he's a good, tough, one-cut downhill runner. He's very good when there's a hole to run through inside. Doesn't break tackles, but hits defenders hard and can wear them down if given enough carries. Great guy to have on the team with his work ethic and leadership, and he seems like a perfect match for Edgar Bennett's coaching.

That said, I'd love to see the Packers get a talented guy high in the draft who could split carries with him, and give the Packers a strong 1-2 punch running attack. I'd love a shifty 230 pound power back. I think it's better to have an RB by committee, because RBs get injured all the time. Ryan Grant should have been able to rest his hammy last year, instead of going out there on a bad leg.

[bobblehead]

Last year grant missed his cutback lanes all season. This year he is missing them early as well (even in preseason).

I'm no fan of Tampax Wynn, but he is a good runner. I would start using him on FIRST down some. BJack might be good enough as well, he was MUCH better than Grant last season and deserves a lot of carries. He isn't as explosive as grant, but his vision improved dramatically from year one to year two, I only hope he gets healthy fast.

[bobblehead]

Never thought he was and I was very surprised TT didnt address it in the draft. Of course-I was almost alone with those posts.

Don't make me bump the youtube link that you posted in my thread where I was begging TT not to give him much of a deal.

[bobblehead]

Never thought he was and I was very surprised TT didnt address it in the draft. Of course-I was almost alone with those posts.

Say what? Lots of us on this train. But the small vocal "Ted can do no wrong crowd" kind of drown us all out. (which you are largely a part of)

Grant is at best serviceable. But he needs a line to run behind. We don't have one. Therefore, Grant can't run.

say what? I have been a huge TT supporter and I HATED the grant deal. Me and JH were the only 2 on this forum who vocally were screaming not to give him shit.

LOTS of us on this train..hardly.

[MJZiggy]

I see Grant as a guy who doesn't have a lot of talent, but works his ass off to be able to compete at a starting NFL level. He's not very shifty or fast, but he's a good, tough, one-cut downhill runner. He's very good when there's a hole to run through inside. Doesn't break tackles, but hits defenders hard and can wear them down if given enough carries. Great guy to have on the team with his work ethic and leadership, and he seems like a perfect match for Edgar Bennett's coaching.

That said, I'd love to see the Packers get a talented guy high in the draft who could split carries with him, and give the Packers a strong 1-2 punch running attack. I'd love a shifty 230 pound power back. I think it's better to have an RB by committee, because RBs get injured all the time. Ryan Grant should have been able to rest his hammy last year, instead of going out there on a bad leg.

[Pugger]

Grant is a decent average NFL back. With a back like Grant his biggest problem is his O line. Only the elite ones like Steven Jackson and AP can make something out of nothing.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Grant is a decent average NFL back. With a back like Grant his biggest problem is his O line. Only the elite ones like Steven Jackson and AP can make something out of nothing.

I posted his stats..go check them out sometime.

Even an elite back like Jackson only gets 1000 with an average line.

With Grant...and his way lower salary...we lose maybe 250 yards and 2-3 tds.

No point in having a great back with a crappy line or crappy QB.

[superfan]

I voted decent, look to upgrade.

He was definitely worth the 6th round pick in trade, probably not worth the contract extension, although I don't know how much he is paid in relation to other #1 RBs throughout the league. If he is paid something around average, then the contract is worth it.

He does a good job of running downhill, one cut and go. He doesn't have a lot to offer other than that. My favorite Grant traits:

1. Cut and go forward, don't dance behind the line. Make that extra yard or two after contact.

2. When daylight appears, put the head down, protect the ball, and run full throttle until crossing the goalline. In 2007 on his long runs, it was fun to see him running all out with nobody else within 15 yards. That's kind of refreshing - no high stepping, showboating or other stupid stuff as the goalline approaches.

Will those traits get him into the HOF? Probably not, but I'm satisfied with him and would prefer to see the team focus on other priorities such as OL and Safety. I'd like to see some improvement in his vision, pass catching, and blocking, but he is what he is - a decent, not great, NFL RB.

[Bossman641]

I think the main problem with Grant is that currently have no other backs to compliment him. Wynn is too similar to Grant and hasn't done much of anything this year.

Grant just looks so stiff and awkward going out for routes and catching the ball. Jackson isn't a natural, but he looks a lot better than Grant.

[Pugger]

Unfortunately for Jackson the young man can't stay healthy.