Seriously WTF?

[HowardRoark]

Content and acknowledgement of content providers. Patler, Waldo, etc. etc. actually provide interesting content that stands on it's own. I suspect, that with a front page with links to 'Patler's blog' (You can use my searchlight pic if you want), a column by Waldo (and an open link to his personal blog), Analysis by Nutz, guest columns, artwork by Skin (no porn), perhaps an tangentially off-topic column by Harlan or someone else, and maybe even a gameday chat with Cleft Crusty ON A LINKABLE front page you will change the appearance of the forum and make it more inviting and interesting. People who contribute content should get some kudos on a front page - and it will help make a name and personality for the forum. They heyday of the forum was when Mad and Zig were actively maintaining and updating the front page. Even when people started in the forum, a lot of things linked to the front page and you had people generating new content that was above the level of a thread titled "Donald Driver."

My humble opinion of course, but the above is pretty damn close to my position.

A few elaborations:

There used to be weekly columns written by posters on the front page. There were also weekly threads like "winners and losers" or whatever the hell it was called. I even recall a contest or 2 with actual prizes.

I also recall posters who were local to GB putting up photos & video to go along with their posts/columns and even non-locals doing the same for their Packer experiences. Hell - that's what made me even think of bringing my camera to a west coast Packer game I attended. Then I posted up the photos I took. Now, I wasn't nearly as good at it as some others, but based on the response, at least several other posters enjoyed them too.

I also recall someone getting exclusive chat time with players and/or reps of the Packer org, then taking questions from the posters and allowing them to answer. Almost like a live chat/Q&A of our own.

There's a certain lack of the use of technology here now. Used to be if someone had photos or vids to share, someone else would step up to help get the content posted. Now it seems that everyone's afraid.

As for contributing, I don't have nearly the time I used to, but when I do it comes in bunches. Sure there's certain poster personalities here I don't "like" but I keep my distance because none of you are any more real to me than any character on TV. That's not an insult - it's just that I come here strictly for entertainment. When I watch my favorite TV show - there's characters I like and characters I don't. It doesn't mean the show is any less my favorite.

I often feel like some of you take this posting anonymously on a public web forum waaaayyyyy too seriously.

Learn to laugh at yourselves a little more - you just might have more fun.

Kudos on an excellent post.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Old bitties are much more genteel even when their stool softeners don't work. Seriously, you make an excellent point that I was just discussing earlier this evening. I feel exactly the same way.

Disappointed to find you using "bitties" when the word is Biddy/biddies. My moral is at an all time low.

Please read the first post again for the source.

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Repeating someone else's mistake is your excuse? I thought you were better than that, guess i was wrong.

Just admit, you didn't know it. Show some morales.

[Noodle]

Repeating someone else's mistake is your excuse? I thought you were better than that, guess i was wrong.

Just admit, you didn't know it. Show some morales.

It's possible that this post was made in this thread out of a sense of irony.

It's possible.

But I'm not sure the timing is quite right (and yes, I recall the dead-and-buried moral v. morale thread, one of the more edifying exchanges on this board).

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I for one am going to try and do my part in this way. I'm not going to mention the vikings QB anytime other than this week since we are playing the vikes. If I need to use a QB as an example of what I'm talking about i'll use a different one.

I have no real new opinions on the guy anyway, and I won't pursuade anyone on him anymore than I'll get Ty to vote republican in the 2010 elections, so why bother.

If the republican candidate puts out cheesecake photos like Meghan McCain did and has large winnebagoes...TY VOTES REPUBLICAN!

Make it happen, Bobble. Make it happen.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

awhile back a handfull of posters joined up together from jso. they stirred the pot and acted like complete assholes hen they got here. that caused posters here to act like complete assholes back. then it spread

those posters brought the bad shit from jso with them, no one was allowed an opposite opinion, and when someone was wrong about something, they got it shoved back in their faces

i think if we still would have had the old attitude, we would have survived the favre drama and whatnot

instead we went from a big happy family to a big shattered mess

i too have problems getting myself to even come on here these days

and some of the peple in this thread need to take a good hard look in the mirror

QFT.

Ty said the same thing.

[Brandon494]

This is pretty much what I'm talking about. There are some posters who take an argument against them as a "jackass response" or an attack on their intelligence.

No one said I'm mad about anything. Just that the lack of intellectual honesty had led to a degeneration of any kind of sustainable interesting or entertaining debate around here.

Excellent use of logic and reasoning. Your numbers are off and your logic is non-existent, but otherwise great effort. Really. Normally you guys bag my cans with my vegetables (and very slowly I might add), so I consider this an improvement.

I laughed. Then I cried. Then I laughed again. Then I puked, giggled, and cried some more. Thanks Branden420, you're a hoot.

SHOWTIME!!! If we don't come away with 6 INTs, 10 FF, 5+ recoveries, 10 TFL, 25 passes defensed, and 12 sacks per game, our defense is obviously a disappointment.

Maybe your expectations shouldn't be based on where a guy is drafted. That might help with some of your disappointment. Unless you're also disappointed that Donald Driver hasn't played the way a 7th round pick should play. But I accept your apology regardless.

Like the troll will still be here.

I don't think I was talking to you in any of those respones yet you had to come in with your "jackass response" because you didnt agree what I was saying about Hawk. Get over yourself, your doing exactly what your bitching about.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Repeating someone else's mistake is your excuse? I thought you were better than that, guess i was wrong.

Just admit, you didn't know it. Show some morales.

It's possible that this post was made in this thread out of a sense of irony.

It's possible.

But I'm not sure the timing is quite right (and yes, I recall the dead-and-buried moral v. morale thread, one of the more edifying exchanges on this board).

She knows i'm teasing her.

Timing? jesus, this is a message board. Nobody is dying of cancer. Like the Cap'n said, some take this way too seriously.

But, i do acknowledge your point.

[mmmdk]

Content and acknowledgement of content providers. Patler, Waldo, etc. etc. actually provide interesting content that stands on it's own. I suspect, that with a front page with links to 'Patler's blog' (You can use my searchlight pic if you want), a column by Waldo (and an open link to his personal blog), Analysis by Nutz, guest columns, artwork by Skin (no porn), perhaps an tangentially off-topic column by Harlan or someone else, and maybe even a gameday chat with Cleft Crusty ON A LINKABLE front page you will change the appearance of the forum and make it more inviting and interesting. People who contribute content should get some kudos on a front page - and it will help make a name and personality for the forum. They heyday of the forum was when Mad and Zig were actively maintaining and updating the front page. Even when people started in the forum, a lot of things linked to the front page and you had people generating new content that was above the level of a thread titled "Donald Driver."

My humble opinion of course, but the above is pretty damn close to my position.

A few elaborations:

There used to be weekly columns written by posters on the front page. There were also weekly threads like "winners and losers" or whatever the hell it was called. I even recall a contest or 2 with actual prizes.

I also recall posters who were local to GB putting up photos & video to go along with their posts/columns and even non-locals doing the same for their Packer experiences. Hell - that's what made me even think of bringing my camera to a west coast Packer game I attended. Then I posted up the photos I took. Now, I wasn't nearly as good at it as some others, but based on the response, at least several other posters enjoyed them too.

I also recall someone getting exclusive chat time with players and/or reps of the Packer org, then taking questions from the posters and allowing them to answer. Almost like a live chat/Q&A of our own.

There's a certain lack of the use of technology here now. Used to be if someone had photos or vids to share, someone else would step up to help get the content posted. Now it seems that everyone's afraid.

As for contributing, I don't have nearly the time I used to, but when I do it comes in bunches. Sure there's certain poster personalities here I don't "like" but I keep my distance because none of you are any more real to me than any character on TV. That's not an insult - it's just that I come here strictly for entertainment. When I watch my favorite TV show - there's characters I like and characters I don't. It doesn't mean the show is any less my favorite.

I often feel like some of you take this posting anonymously on a public web forum waaaayyyyy too seriously.

Learn to laugh at yourselves a little more - you just might have more fun.

Kick ass observation ! That would put the Packers back into rats.com too.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

JH, I've said many times I like your packer insight and willingness to delve into any topic and post/learn/educate, but calling out these posters doesn't help anything.

Mobb especially has gone a long way towards leaving BF alone and posting on the packers.

RG is also a true packer fan, he just doesn't think that the team is that good. His loyalty to the team isn't open to debate in my opinion.

007 and Bretsky loved Favre, nothing wrong with that. They were hurt and reacted accordingly when the team split. Pretty sure they are still packer fans, but they might also want to see BF do well.

Nutz...well, he is nutz. He might dish it towards TT and crew, but at least he doesn't get majorly offended when someone goes back at him. He has stated his position many times, no need for me to rehash it. He doesn't like the front office right now and wants it to change. He has his right to his opinion.

This post by you however can only incite. It can't do anything else. You are calling out a handful of posters for no good reason than having loved BF and still having a bit of loyalty to him.

When they post overboard undying love for BF refute it with facts. Stick to what happened in the split...better yet ignore it. Are they BF fans FIRST...I doubt that. They view the situation differently than you or I, but other than nutz wanting favre to get his revenge, I think most every packer fan on this board still wants the packers in the superbowl.

RG is a true fan? Ok. But, it is amazing how his posts decline when the packers are winning. If he can't bitch about TT, the OL, etc....then you rarely see him.

He is like Merlin. Anybody notice that he isn't around anymore. Of course he isn't here...but, i guarantee you that if we lose against the Vikes he will be here.

Posters asking about the Vikes game and then posting they are disappointed it isn't on TV. Fuck that. Game was at the same time as packers.

Certain poster, forgot who, mentioned the haters...and this site is/was full of them. Fuck, you had Merlin with an avatar of Favre as a jet. WTF?

Mobb. He is ok. But, his constant pimping of Favre and others....like Sharper is annoying. Personal discussions with Rastak on this board about the Vikes. FUCK THAT. You wanna discuss the Vikes..do it on a Vikes message board or thru PM. Mobb would rather discuss anything but the pack...vick, sharper, etc. LORD FAVRE!!!!!!

Bretsky. No issue.

007. Clearly a Favre fan. Went to Iowa. She is suspect.

Nutz. His position is clear. It isn't pro packer, and his posts will cause problems.

That being said, Ty isn't suggesting the leave or be banned. What ty is saying is let's call a spade a spade. You want to call me an asshole. Fine. Ty is an asshole. BUT NO ONE QUESTIONS MY LOYALTY TO THE PACK. Several of these posters and others clearly have demonstrated that they aren't packer fans.

Ty agrees with much of what Skin wrote about. Skin and Ty don't agree on many things, but we both have strong bs detectors.

The Favre shit was ridiculous. And, in a Packer Game Day thread discussions of Favre are UNACCEPTABLE. Ty was criticized for saying that. RIDICULOUS. You may not like Ty, but that doesn't mean Ty doesn't have a point. If you can't follow the game day thread without hearing and discussing Favre....where can you? Is there so little to discuss about the pack (new defense, OL struggles, jennings early struggles, Tausch, Lang, Grant,etc.) that we need to discuss Favre.

Fuck, there is a whole thread devoted to Favre. There is a Sharper Shake thread where Mobb mentally masturbates in. Look, you can start a thread, BUT THEN LET IT RUN ITS COURSE AND DIE. Same people bumping their non packer threads.

If anyone attempts to show some order and restraint they are criticized..regardless of who they are. Zool tried to keep the QB numbers thread clean...and of course 007 argued against it.

this place was some good fun for a long time. Then, a certain # of posters arrived. They changed the attitude of the place. The RR use to have tons of good threads....gone. Barely any fun in there at all.

Maybe what we had was special and couldn't last.

THis is kind of a rant. No one is suppose to be offended.

[Brandon494]

Like what was said in the gameday thread, the game was pretty much over man. I mean half the staduim had left at halftime and with only 3 minutes left in the game the Packers were just running out the clock. I don't see what the big deal is about discussing a game that will have a huge impact on the next game we play against the Vikings. Its not like we were cheering for Favre to win against the Steelers, everyone was cheering when Favre fumbled and threw the INT.

[Bossman641]

Content and acknowledgement of content providers. Patler, Waldo, etc. etc. actually provide interesting content that stands on it's own. I suspect, that with a front page with links to 'Patler's blog' (You can use my searchlight pic if you want), a column by Waldo (and an open link to his personal blog), Analysis by Nutz, guest columns, artwork by Skin (no porn), perhaps an tangentially off-topic column by Harlan or someone else, and maybe even a gameday chat with Cleft Crusty ON A LINKABLE front page you will change the appearance of the forum and make it more inviting and interesting. People who contribute content should get some kudos on a front page - and it will help make a name and personality for the forum. They heyday of the forum was when Mad and Zig were actively maintaining and updating the front page. Even when people started in the forum, a lot of things linked to the front page and you had people generating new content that was above the level of a thread titled "Donald Driver."

I often feel like some of you take this posting anonymously on a public web forum waaaayyyyy too seriously.

Learn to laugh at yourselves a little more - you just might have more fun.

I agree with this 100%. I cannot get over the number of people here who will just argue and argue and argue. It doesn't bother me, or make me want to leave, I just see it as a tremendous waste of time.

I'm beginning to think something is wrong with me that I haven't had a knockdown, drag it out fight.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Like what was said in the gameday thread, the game was pretty much over man. I mean half the staduim had left at halftime and with only 3 minutes left in the game the Packers were just running out the clock. I don't see what the big deal is about discussing a game that will have a huge impact on the next game we play against the Vikings. Its not like we were cheering for Favre to win against the Steelers, everyone was cheering when Favre fumbled and threw the INT.

Stop defending what you did. You are wrong. As PB said, there has been an alternate game day thread.

Apply your logic to other points of the game. Surely there is nothing wrong with posting as the game begins...nothing is happening yet. What about halftime? What about commercial breaks.

The gameday thread is about the GAME. What is hard to understand? Posts are about the GAME. You wanna post different stuff...there are multiple threads for it.

If you can't see the need to keep a thread clean, then there is really no need to discuss it.

[Deputy Nutz]

Goddamn if people try to go out and prove Partial's point.

Why the hell do names have to be dragged through the mud? I never mentioned anyone in my posts in this thread other to say positive things about them, such as when I called Mad a cocksucker.

anyways, I like Favre, big deal. I won't sit here and disparage Rodgers, or any other Packer player because of my feelings about Favre and Green Bay Packers. I will call it like I see it and I am happy to be in that position. I have a lot less grief in my life.

anyways, some need to relax.

Ignore.

Take me for instance, I really want to threaten a certain poster right, now. I dislike him that much. I want to challenge him to a fistacuffs, but I have decided to use some restrain. Also I would like to say nasty things about his mother, but again I will refrain and demonstrate my discipline and control. Being the better person is whats important.

[Brando19]

Too much fighting and whining. I've been guilty of it as well. I believe there's too many rivalries on this site. Certain posters have had cross words with others and just can't forgive them. Ty and myself had a little feud and he had me so pissed off...then I realized this is just a forum and it's not like he punched me in the face. It was silly, I got too riled up and now I think Ty is one of the funniest posters...he's funny as hell. We need to let things slide on this site and remember this is just a forum...don't hold grudges. Don't go off if you feel someone views something a little different than you do...noone's the same. This forum has the potential to be the best football forum on the internet...the posters here are excellent. We just need to clean up a few things. In the words of Rodney King, "Can't We All Just Get Along?"

[MJZiggy]

I had the thought that perhaps we just need to make some of those word substitutions that some forums do to replace swear words. Favre becomes "he who shall not be named" a la Voldemort and all of the iterations of common insults (idiot, moron, asshole, etc.) become silly ultrafeminine words a prepubescent girl might use. Might not solve much, but at least if a flame war starts, the rest of us have something entertaining to read...