Seriously WTF?

[MOBB DEEP]

Like I try to do in my daily living, we should all attempt to be like Jesus on this forum; hate the sin NOT the sinner (allows me to be insulted by several posters yet still laugh at their jokes and respect their opinions). In other words, WHO CARES what some gal or guy says on an internet forum, whether their opinions are in line with mine, etc? Personally, i KNOW favre made GB relevant again and sholda been allowed to return. But very few ppl are ever swayed. so live and let live

This place was designed for ENTERTAINMENT!

Like 007 said, there are some ppl here who are overall decent ppl. We shouldnt allow our disagreements to shape our opinions of other individuals with whom we've never really interacted. Some folk here think they REALLY know other posters! I can get along with nearly anyone (symptom of my people-pleasing narcissicism) so i know the MOBB bashers here would LOVE me in person like all ppl i run into in the "real world". But, b/c I sweat Favre/Vick, etc (and dont break down Packer film and personnel moves like some armchair GMs), folk get mean-spirited. Relax, Packers/Favre/TT are NOT the end all be all in this crazy world!

Everyone have a great day...

[retailguy]

Well said PB. Well said. Kudos.

[MichiganPackerFan]

I had the thought that perhaps we just need to make some of those word substitutions that some forums do to replace swear words. Favre becomes "he who shall not be named" a la Voldemort and all of the iterations of common insults (idiot, moron, asshole, etc.) become silly ultrafeminine words a prepubescent girl might use. Might not solve much, but at least if a flame war starts, the rest of us have something entertaining to read...

Interesting. Add a random word generator to replace certain terms and insults with similar sounding ones as you described would add the groaning entertainment of watching an edited R-rated film on TNT!

[MichiganPackerFan]

In the words of Rodney King, "Can't We All Just Get Along?"

you sure it wasn't "Ouch, Ooompff, Owie, Stop, Wait, Ouch, I can explain, STOP, OUCH!!"

That line is funny every time!

[MichiganPackerFan]

Maybe its just me, but I took something else away from Nutz's point than some others. He wasn't trying to respond to the criticism leveled at certain posters. He wasn't defending a group or decrying being put in a group. He was trying to point out that calling people out over petty things like WHY you are a fan (or WHY you dislike a player) simply causes arguments and hard feelings. Its a child's blame game.

There is no point to it other than to start a fight or make yourself feel more righteous. Being a fan is an irrational act in many ways, and shouldn't need to be explained nor defended. And it should go without saying that blaming problems on certain kinds of fans is equally ludicrous. No one takes a fan test to post here. You're accepted here to talk about Packers football (or at least football in general).

Questioning the validity of certain fans should simply stop, as should pointing out the logical flaws of their belief. Or supposed hatred of your favorite player. Despite what posters think, these posts aren't clever and don't win the argument. None of this makes sense or helps.

To give a concrete example, we have a poster who is still in a certain player's corner. Many disagree with this position. Now he may be right, he may be wrong, or he might be just a fan. But that poster knows more about football than 98% of the rest of us (myself included). He could believe in the Tooth Fairy and the Flying Spaghetti Monster for all I care; I want to read his posts and damn anyone who wants to insult, drown out or condemn his posts.

Dug your post pb - also like the film breakdown on another thread - really helps me to understand and appreciate the game better...

[Deputy Nutz]

Maybe its just me, but I took something else away from Nutz's point than some others. He wasn't trying to respond to the criticism leveled at certain posters. He wasn't defending a group or decrying being put in a group. He was trying to point out that calling people out over petty things like WHY you are a fan (or WHY you dislike a player) simply causes arguments and hard feelings. Its a child's blame game.

There is no point to it other than to start a fight or make yourself feel more righteous. Being a fan is an irrational act in many ways, and shouldn't need to be explained nor defended. And it should go without saying that blaming problems on certain kinds of fans is equally ludicrous. No one takes a fan test to post here. You're accepted here to talk about Packers football (or at least football in general).

Questioning the validity of certain fans should simply stop, as should pointing out the logical flaws of their belief. Or supposed hatred of your favorite player. Despite what posters think, these posts aren't clever and don't win the argument. None of this makes sense or helps.

To give a concrete example, we have a poster who is still in a certain player's corner. Many disagree with this position. Now he may be right, he may be wrong, or he might be just a fan. But that poster knows more about football than 98% of the rest of us (myself included). He could believe in the Tooth Fairy and the Flying Spaghetti Monster for all I care; I want to read his posts and damn anyone who wants to insult, drown out or condemn his posts.

Well said.


Personal attacks happen, but they were usually after dozens of posts, where people just couldn't put up with something. Personal attacks were not the norm, for any poster. For some it has come to being only personal attacks. If some couldn't post personal attacks, I don't know how they could fill in the text box. For some when ever they post submit, they are leveled with personal attacks.

I have always been pretty "creative" in my posting style, but I am not going to call a poster a "butt fucker" just because I don't agree with his opinion on football.

The creativity on this forum has really taken a shit. If we have to resort to personal attacks and one liners just to be funny on a forum, then really what have we become? I guess suppose it is different in the other rooms on this forum, but the Packer forum should be a little better than that.

There are a couple in this thread that just keep proving this over and over. this disagree with someone's view and they blast it with one line and an emoticon. Really? Have you not read what this thread is about?

I hate it when people say, "take it to PM", but have some respect for threads, especially in the football room. Don't wreck a thread because you want to get into an off topic discussion that revolves around personal attacks. Challenge the other poster to take it to the Romper Room.

[Zool]

It is absolute insanity that every thread on this board turns into a Packers vs Favre debate. I just don't get it. He's gone. Let him go.

[Deputy Nutz]

It is absolute insanity that every thread on this board turns into a Packers vs Favre debate. I just don't get it. He's gone. Let him go.

Fine, lets talk about your mother instead. She has some cute curls.

[Bossman641]

It is absolute insanity that every thread on this board turns into a Packers vs Favre debate. I just don't get it. He's gone. Let him go.

It's really not that surprising to me.

The one thing we as Packer fans should have in common is a desire to have the Packers win every week, see our rivals struggle, and go on from there.

I don't think that common ground exists anymore.

Just my opinion

[Partial]

It is absolute insanity that every thread on this board turns into a Packers vs Favre debate. I just don't get it. He's gone. Let him go.

It's really not that surprising to me.

The one thing we as Packer fans should have in common is a desire to have the Packers win every week, see our rivals struggle, and go on from there.

I don't think that common ground exists anymore.

Just my opinion

Dude, that's just not true. Why does being a Packer fan mean you want other teams to do poorly? Me, I want everyone to do well. I don't understand your logic.

I think the fundamental problem is burnout of personalities. I know that I can give a pretty accurate guess as to how someone is going to respond to one thing or another, and based on past history I develop an opinion on whether someone is acting like a jerk or not.

Right now I'm personally giddy as the explosive weekend basically proved the point I've been preaching to admin all along. Hopefully he will recognize this and take steps I've suggested.

[sharpe1027]

Dude, that's just not true. Why does being a Packer fan mean you want other teams to do poorly? Me, I want everyone to do well. I don't understand your logic.

I think he means that the Packers doing well usually starts with the making the playoffs, then to winning the division, then to the NFC championship and finally with the Superbowl. Thus, the Packer's success is inversely proportional to how well other teams in the NFC do as well as how well other teams in the North do.

IMO, there is no need to continue the discussion on who is or is not a fan. Let's move on together. We can all hold hands and skip down the yellow-brick road together.

[Smidgeon]

IMO, there is no need to continue the discussion on who is or is not a fan. Let's move on together. We can all hold hands and skip down the yellow-brick road together.

Okay, but I'm not going to be the one in the dress.

[Bossman641]

Dude, that's just not true. Why does being a Packer fan mean you want other teams to do poorly? Me, I want everyone to do well. I don't understand your logic.

I think he means that the Packers doing well usually starts with the making the playoffs, then to winning the division, then to the NFC championship and finally with the Superbowl. Thus, the Packer's success is inversely proportional to how well other teams in the NFC do as well as how well other teams in the North do.

BINGO

You have packer fans excited about the Vikings start. You have packer fans on the fence about who they want to win this week, or even not minding if they lose. That is what I mean. The Packers losing this week would put them the equivalent of 3 games behind the Vikings. I cannot fathom how anyone could be happy with the Vikings playing well, or winning this weekend, as that directly hurts the Packers. That is just how I feel though.

It's obviously everyone's decision as to how they feel about the situation. But there are a lot of people here who can sniff out BS, and it's not hard to separate those who would be crushed over a Packer loss from those who would be OK with a Viking win.

Like I said earlier, that common ground has been eroded a little bit.

[mraynrand]

It is absolute insanity that every thread on this board turns into a Packers vs Favre debate. I just don't get it. He's gone. Let him go.

It's really not that surprising to me.

The one thing we as Packer fans should have in common is a desire to have the Packers win every week, see our rivals struggle, and go on from there.

I don't think that common ground exists anymore.

Just my opinion

Dude, that's just not true. Why does being a Packer fan mean you want other teams to do poorly? Me, I want everyone to do well. I don't understand your logic.

I think the fundamental problem is burnout of personalities. I know that I can give a pretty accurate guess as to how someone is going to respond to one thing or another, and based on past history I develop an opinion on whether someone is acting like a jerk or not.

Right now I'm personally giddy as the explosive weekend basically proved the point I've been preaching to admin all along. Hopefully he will recognize this and take steps I've suggested.

Ι λικε ψου Σολλψ. Ψου αρε α φυννψ γυψ. Τηατ ισ ωηψ Ι αμ γοινγ το κιλλ ψου λαστ.

[sharpe1027]

Okay, but I'm not going to be the one in the dress.

I'll take your request into consideration; there are no guarantees though. How are you at skipping in heels?