Seriously WTF?

[Brandon494]

There are a couple in this thread that just keep proving this over and over. this disagree with someone's view and they blast it with one line and an emoticon. Really? Have you not read what this thread is about?

I was being sarcastic in my one liner, how is that any differnt from your little mom one liner you make right after you posted this?

Fine, lets talk about your mother instead. She has some cute curls.

[mmmdk]

It is absolute insanity that every thread on this board turns into a Packers vs Favre debate. I just don't get it. He's gone. Let him go.

It's really not that surprising to me.

The one thing we as Packer fans should have in common is a desire to have the Packers win every week, see our rivals struggle, and go on from there.

I don't think that common ground exists anymore.

Just my opinion

Dude, that's just not true. Why does being a Packer fan mean you want other teams to do poorly? Me, I want everyone to do well. I don't understand your logic.

I think the fundamental problem is burnout of personalities. I know that I can give a pretty accurate guess as to how someone is going to respond to one thing or another, and based on past history I develop an opinion on whether someone is acting like a jerk or not.

Right now I'm personally giddy as the explosive weekend basically proved the point I've been preaching to admin all along. Hopefully he will recognize this and take steps I've suggested.

Sorry, Part, what you said makes no sense. Don't let it stop you though

[Brandon494]

I guess my point is simple, who gives a fuck if someone is this kinda of fan or that kind of fan, if they support good discussion it really shouldn't matter. Some want to be the judge and jury about what type of fans should be allowed here.

I have been told at least a half a dozen times to go find a vikings forum even though I have been here longer than 99% of all registered users.

Doesn't really matter how long you been here if your rooting for a player who is hurting the Packers chancing of making the playoffs, which is the first step of achieving the ultimate goal of a championship. No one is saying you can't post here, most just don't want to hear crap about a so called "packer fan" cheering for Favre to suceed in purple. Maybe thats the reason you've been told to go to the viking forum.

[Brandon494]

I don't visit other packer sites, so I have a question for those of you who do.

What do they do about the whole Favre situation? Separate rooms? Heavily moderated?

I have to believe the arguments here go on elsewhere as well.

They do and thats the reason I was actually ban from Packer Report because the admin there was so far up Favre's ass and such a TT hater. He ban me for being too "positive" about the Packers after the Viking lost, whatever the fuck that means. I used no foul language or personal attack, just had a different opinion than his and that was reason enough for him.

[sharpe1027]

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[mmmdk]

I don't visit other packer sites, so I have a question for those of you who do.

What do they do about the whole Favre situation? Separate rooms? Heavily moderated?

I have to believe the arguments here go on elsewhere as well.

I've said this before; don't blame the BF debacle. This is a possé group that cannot be dealt with. This is a Favre site for years to come.

The trouble is the posters not Favre. A prick is a prick is a prick....

[mmmdk]

I don't visit other packer sites, so I have a question for those of you who do.

What do they do about the whole Favre situation? Separate rooms? Heavily moderated?

I have to believe the arguments here go on elsewhere as well.

They do and thats the reason I was actually ban from Packer Report because the admin there was so far up Favre's ass and such a TT hater. He ban me for being too "positive" about the Packers after the Viking lost, whatever the fuck that means. I used no foul language or personal attack, just had a different opinion than his and that was reason enough for him.

If true; this is seriously f@cked up.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Dude, that's just not true. Why does being a Packer fan mean you want other teams to do poorly? Me, I want everyone to do well. I don't understand your logic.

I think he means that the Packers doing well usually starts with the making the playoffs, then to winning the division, then to the NFC championship and finally with the Superbowl. Thus, the Packer's success is inversely proportional to how well other teams in the NFC do as well as how well other teams in the North do.

IMO, there is no need to continue the discussion on who is or is not a fan. Let's move on together. We can all hold hands and skip down the yellow-brick road together.

Wow, I had to explain this to another Packer fan last week. No "fan" and we'll use that loosely, of any team, should have a tough time when deciding whether to cheer for their team or the hated division rival they are playing that week, or any week! It's like logic and reasoning don't apply to some people.

Packer Nation should just agree to disagree and move on. We must ban the "F" word, and I mean Favre. Not just for the good of Packer Nation, but for the good of society. It is clear by now that we'll all never see this issue through the same green and gold glasses.

[mraynrand]

Dude, that's just not true. Why does being a Packer fan mean you want other teams to do poorly? Me, I want everyone to do well. I don't understand your logic.

I think he means that the Packers doing well usually starts with the making the playoffs, then to winning the division, then to the NFC championship and finally with the Superbowl. Thus, the Packer's success is inversely proportional to how well other teams in the NFC do as well as how well other teams in the North do.

IMO, there is no need to continue the discussion on who is or is not a fan. Let's move on together. We can all hold hands and skip down the yellow-brick road together.

Wow, I had to explain this to another Packer fan last week. No "fan" and we'll use that loosely, of any team, should have a tough time when deciding whether to cheer for their team or the hated division rival they are playing that week, or any week! It's like logic and reasoning don't apply to some people.

Packer Nation should just agree to disagree and move on. We must ban the "F" word, and I mean Favre. Not just for the good of Packer Nation, but for the good of society. It is clear by now that we'll all never see this issue through the same green and gold glasses.

It's not possible to ban/ignore the 'F' word any more than it's possible to ban the 'E' word (Economy). It's in your face every day. What we can decide to do is not personally attack those with different views. I disagree with Nutz and 007 on their positions regarding Favre, but both of them contribute as posters and it seems to me won't be nasty if they aren't provoked. So don't provoke.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Dude, that's just not true. Why does being a Packer fan mean you want other teams to do poorly? Me, I want everyone to do well. I don't understand your logic.

I think he means that the Packers doing well usually starts with the making the playoffs, then to winning the division, then to the NFC championship and finally with the Superbowl. Thus, the Packer's success is inversely proportional to how well other teams in the NFC do as well as how well other teams in the North do.

IMO, there is no need to continue the discussion on who is or is not a fan. Let's move on together. We can all hold hands and skip down the yellow-brick road together.

Wow, I had to explain this to another Packer fan last week. No "fan" and we'll use that loosely, of any team, should have a tough time when deciding whether to cheer for their team or the hated division rival they are playing that week, or any week! It's like logic and reasoning don't apply to some people.

Packer Nation should just agree to disagree and move on. We must ban the "F" word, and I mean Favre. Not just for the good of Packer Nation, but for the good of society. It is clear by now that we'll all never see this issue through the same green and gold glasses.

It's not possible to ban/ignore the 'F' word any more than it's possible to ban the 'E' word (Economy). It's in your face every day. What we can decide to do is not personally attack those with different views. I disagree with Nutz and 007 on their positions regarding Favre, but both of them contribute as posters and it seems to me won't be nasty if they aren't provoked. So don't provoke.

But just like a Jehova's Witness at your door when it's 7 in the morning, it can be annoying when something is thrown in your face. Some people don't provoke, they are antagonized first.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

It is absolute insanity that every thread on this board turns into a Packers vs Favre debate. I just don't get it. He's gone. Let him go.

It's really not that surprising to me.

The one thing we as Packer fans should have in common is a desire to have the Packers win every week, see our rivals struggle, and go on from there.

I don't think that common ground exists anymore.

Just my opinion

Dude, that's just not true. Why does being a Packer fan mean you want other teams to do poorly? Me, I want everyone to do well. I don't understand your logic.

I think the fundamental problem is burnout of personalities. I know that I can give a pretty accurate guess as to how someone is going to respond to one thing or another, and based on past history I develop an opinion on whether someone is acting like a jerk or not.

Right now I'm personally giddy as the explosive weekend basically proved the point I've been preaching to admin all along. Hopefully he will recognize this and take steps I've suggested.

You want everyone to do well? WTF kind of loigc is that. The interests of the packer's are mutually exclusive of the vikings. In order for the pack to do well the vikings have to do worse. It really is that simple.

The interest of the packers is to win the division, get in the playoffs, secure home field advantage, advance to the NFC championship, get to to the SB, win the SB. Every game the vikings win puts that goal at risk.

Is it harder to win on the road? Yes. Is it harder to win as a wildcard? yes. If for that reason alone you shouldn't be rooting for the vikings or bears.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Dude, that's just not true. Why does being a Packer fan mean you want other teams to do poorly? Me, I want everyone to do well. I don't understand your logic.

I think he means that the Packers doing well usually starts with the making the playoffs, then to winning the division, then to the NFC championship and finally with the Superbowl. Thus, the Packer's success is inversely proportional to how well other teams in the NFC do as well as how well other teams in the North do.

IMO, there is no need to continue the discussion on who is or is not a fan. Let's move on together. We can all hold hands and skip down the yellow-brick road together.

Wow, I had to explain this to another Packer fan last week. No "fan" and we'll use that loosely, of any team, should have a tough time when deciding whether to cheer for their team or the hated division rival they are playing that week, or any week! It's like logic and reasoning don't apply to some people.

Packer Nation should just agree to disagree and move on. We must ban the "F" word, and I mean Favre. Not just for the good of Packer Nation, but for the good of society. It is clear by now that we'll all never see this issue through the same green and gold glasses.

It's not possible to ban/ignore the 'F' word any more than it's possible to ban the 'E' word (Economy). It's in your face every day. What we can decide to do is not personally attack those with different views. I disagree with Nutz and 007 on their positions regarding Favre, but both of them contribute as posters and it seems to me won't be nasty if they aren't provoked. So don't provoke.

unfortunately that isn't true. If we celebrate or advocate beating the vikes and their qb...pummeling him in a fashion that i wish our defense did to EVERY QB (tho, honestly, i take a a bit more personal satisfaction if it is bert..but, the same way i would feel about certain other playes), they will take it as a provocation.

That is essentially the problem. One cannot be a fan as previously understood of the pack. One cannot advocate pummeling Favre. One cannot take delight in his miscues. One cannot root for him to fail...because all is seen as provocation.

The hypocrisy of the situation is mind blowing. Nobody hear is upset or speaks up for poor jay cutler when his name and reputation is besmirched.

[mraynrand]

Dude, that's just not true. Why does being a Packer fan mean you want other teams to do poorly? Me, I want everyone to do well. I don't understand your logic.

I think he means that the Packers doing well usually starts with the making the playoffs, then to winning the division, then to the NFC championship and finally with the Superbowl. Thus, the Packer's success is inversely proportional to how well other teams in the NFC do as well as how well other teams in the North do.

IMO, there is no need to continue the discussion on who is or is not a fan. Let's move on together. We can all hold hands and skip down the yellow-brick road together.

Wow, I had to explain this to another Packer fan last week. No "fan" and we'll use that loosely, of any team, should have a tough time when deciding whether to cheer for their team or the hated division rival they are playing that week, or any week! It's like logic and reasoning don't apply to some people.

Packer Nation should just agree to disagree and move on. We must ban the "F" word, and I mean Favre. Not just for the good of Packer Nation, but for the good of society. It is clear by now that we'll all never see this issue through the same green and gold glasses.

It's not possible to ban/ignore the 'F' word any more than it's possible to ban the 'E' word (Economy). It's in your face every day. What we can decide to do is not personally attack those with different views. I disagree with Nutz and 007 on their positions regarding Favre, but both of them contribute as posters and it seems to me won't be nasty if they aren't provoked. So don't provoke.

unfortunately that isn't true. If we celebrate or advocate beating the vikes and their qb...pummeling him in a fashion that i wish our defense did to EVERY QB (tho, honestly, i take a a bit more personal satisfaction if it is bert..but, the same way i would feel about certain other playes), they will take it as a provocation.

That is essentially the problem. One cannot be a fan as previously understood of the pack. One cannot advocate pummeling Favre. One cannot take delight in his miscues. One cannot root for him to fail...because all is seen as provocation.

The hypocrisy of the situation is mind blowing. Nobody hear is upset or speaks up for poor jay cutler when his name and reputation is besmirched.

Then I say if they are provoked and attack personally, the best thing is 1) don't respond and 2) if you respond, simply address what you care about, as you did above and move on. The endless downward spiral of back and forth personal attacks is what kills threads. Someone has to turn their back and walk away from the fray on the high road.

[mraynrand]

Dude, that's just not true. Why does being a Packer fan mean you want other teams to do poorly? Me, I want everyone to do well. I don't understand your logic.

I think he means that the Packers doing well usually starts with the making the playoffs, then to winning the division, then to the NFC championship and finally with the Superbowl. Thus, the Packer's success is inversely proportional to how well other teams in the NFC do as well as how well other teams in the North do.

IMO, there is no need to continue the discussion on who is or is not a fan. Let's move on together. We can all hold hands and skip down the yellow-brick road together.

Wow, I had to explain this to another Packer fan last week. No "fan" and we'll use that loosely, of any team, should have a tough time when deciding whether to cheer for their team or the hated division rival they are playing that week, or any week! It's like logic and reasoning don't apply to some people.

Packer Nation should just agree to disagree and move on. We must ban the "F" word, and I mean Favre. Not just for the good of Packer Nation, but for the good of society. It is clear by now that we'll all never see this issue through the same green and gold glasses.

It's not possible to ban/ignore the 'F' word any more than it's possible to ban the 'E' word (Economy). It's in your face every day. What we can decide to do is not personally attack those with different views. I disagree with Nutz and 007 on their positions regarding Favre, but both of them contribute as posters and it seems to me won't be nasty if they aren't provoked. So don't provoke.

But just like a Jehova's Witness at your door when it's 7 in the morning, it can be annoying when something is thrown in your face. Some people don't provoke, they are antagonized first.

Don't answer the door. If you answer the door and don't like what you hear, you say 'Excuse me, but I have to go now. Sorry but I'm closing the door now."

OK. I am done with this thread. I'm starting to sound like Miss Manners...er....Ms. Manners. "Gentle Reader,...."

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Everything you say is true, to a point. And, no one should attack them personally.

But, as noted, they will feel provoked and start shit because Bert is attacked.

As a packer fan, on a packer board, it is my FUCKING right to attack all players on the enemies team.

Your house analogy is a bit off. THis is forum is more like a church for packers. You wouldn't accept at your church if a member started saying that he really was fan of Muhammed and a fan of Jesus. And, that as competing religions, he was rooting for Islam, but he still was a fan of Christianity. Now, as a good Xian, i would expect/hope that you could contain yourself and politely ask the person to refrain from this type of behavior in YOUR CHURCH.

I doubt you and your fellow parishioners would be so lukewarm and turn your cheeks on this issue.

At best the Islam fans should be quiet and lay low.

As a MINORITY, they should learn a lesson that all minorities have learned...keep your mouth shut...cause things can get bad in a hurry.