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seriously guys, the broncos and Falcons have run ZBS with great success over the years. The Broncos had the rep for plugging in any 6th round pick to get 1500 yards for awhile. The ZBS is a great system when implemented properly, the problem isn't the scheme, its the execution.Originally posted by Mr. TI have to agree. Sherman was more successful running a power scheme than McCarthy with ZBS. I also feel this scheme is more suited to GB's climate. Hard to cut in snow, mud, or ice.Originally posted by gbgaryi've never had a problem with grant...the zone blocking scheme, on the other hand, i have had a problem with. i like the power type scheme better.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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yup. and my favorite, and i believe the most successful, runs green and grant have had were the up the gut, quick-hitters. i don't like the tip-toeing around the zbs tends to have.Originally posted by Mr. TI have to agree. Sherman was more successful running a power scheme than McCarthy with ZBS. I also feel this scheme is more suited to GB's climate. Hard to cut in snow, mud, or ice.Originally posted by gbgaryi've never had a problem with grant...the zone blocking scheme, on the other hand, i have had a problem with. i like the power type scheme better.
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i hear ya.Originally posted by bobbleheadseriously guys, the broncos and Falcons have run ZBS with great success over the years. The Broncos had the rep for plugging in any 6th round pick to get 1500 yards for awhile. The ZBS is a great system when implemented properly, the problem isn't the scheme, its the execution.Originally posted by Mr. TI have to agree. Sherman was more successful running a power scheme than McCarthy with ZBS. I also feel this scheme is more suited to GB's climate. Hard to cut in snow, mud, or ice.Originally posted by gbgaryi've never had a problem with grant...the zone blocking scheme, on the other hand, i have had a problem with. i like the power type scheme better.
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I hope they run Grant up the gut Sunday. Run right at the Williams. Running Grant wide isn't pretty.Originally posted by gbgaryyup. and my favorite, and i believe the most successful, runs green and grant have had were the up the gut, quick-hitters. i don't like the tip-toeing around the zbs tends to have.Originally posted by Mr. TI have to agree. Sherman was more successful running a power scheme than McCarthy with ZBS. I also feel this scheme is more suited to GB's climate. Hard to cut in snow, mud, or ice.Originally posted by gbgaryi've never had a problem with grant...the zone blocking scheme, on the other hand, i have had a problem with. i like the power type scheme better.One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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I don't see Grant running up the middle against the Williams boys. I'd run him right at Allen with Quin Johnson blocking out the backfield. Lang has already showed he is a better run blocker than Clifton.Originally posted by Maxie the TaxiI hope they run Grant up the gut Sunday. Run right at the Williams. Running Grant wide isn't pretty.Originally posted by gbgaryyup. and my favorite, and i believe the most successful, runs green and grant have had were the up the gut, quick-hitters. i don't like the tip-toeing around the zbs tends to have.Originally posted by Mr. TI have to agree. Sherman was more successful running a power scheme than McCarthy with ZBS. I also feel this scheme is more suited to GB's climate. Hard to cut in snow, mud, or ice.Originally posted by gbgaryi've never had a problem with grant...the zone blocking scheme, on the other hand, i have had a problem with. i like the power type scheme better.
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That would work for me too. I just don't like those running plays that take so long to develop. The quick-openers are my favorites.One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
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+1, and running Grant right at Allen will go a long ways in keeping Rodgers' jersey clean as well. They should have done that a month ago too.Originally posted by Brandon494I don't see Grant running up the middle against the Williams boys. I'd run him right at Allen with Quin Johnson blocking out the backfield. Lang has already showed he is a better run blocker than Clifton.Originally posted by Maxie the TaxiI hope they run Grant up the gut Sunday. Run right at the Williams. Running Grant wide isn't pretty.Originally posted by gbgaryyup. and my favorite, and i believe the most successful, runs green and grant have had were the up the gut, quick-hitters. i don't like the tip-toeing around the zbs tends to have.Originally posted by Mr. TI have to agree. Sherman was more successful running a power scheme than McCarthy with ZBS. I also feel this scheme is more suited to GB's climate. Hard to cut in snow, mud, or ice.Originally posted by gbgaryi've never had a problem with grant...the zone blocking scheme, on the other hand, i have had a problem with. i like the power type scheme better.Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow
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I prefer the ones where our guy breaks free and runs for a touchdown, but that's just meOriginally posted by Maxie the TaxiThat would work for me too. I just don't like those running plays that take so long to develop. The quick-openers are my favorites.
"Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
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I swear, most all of Grant's TD runs seem to come on quick-openers.Originally posted by MJZiggyI prefer the ones where our guy breaks free and runs for a touchdown, but that's just meOriginally posted by Maxie the TaxiThat would work for me too. I just don't like those running plays that take so long to develop. The quick-openers are my favorites.
One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
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77 carries - 337 yards against St. Louis, Detroit & Cleveland
41 carries - 158 yards again Chicago, Cincinatti, & Minnesota.
So what that tells me is Grant is good against poor teams, and average to below average against good teams.
Numbers don't always tell you the real truth...unless you break it down like this."I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh
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Problem is you'd have to do a similar breakdown for all the leading NFL backs. And does your breakdown necessarily reflect on Grant or on the OL or both?Originally posted by ND7267 carries - 337 yards against St. Louis, Detroit & Cleveland
41 carries - 158 yards again Chicago, Cincinatti, & Minnesota.
So what that tells me is Grant is good against poor teams, and average to below average against good teams.
Numbers don't always tell you the real truth...unless you break it down like this.One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
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Grant
77 carries - 337 yards against St. Louis, Detroit & Cleveland (4.38 ypc)
41 carries - 158 yards again Chicago, Cincinatti, & Minnesota. (3.85 ypc)
Adrian Peterson
54 carries - 335 yards vs. St. Louis, Detroit, & Cleveland (6.20 ypc)
84 carries - 352 yards vs. Baltimore, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, & San Fran (4.19 ypc)
Totals
138 carries - 687 yards - 5.0 ypc - 8 TD in 7 Games for AP
118 carries - 495 yards - 4.2 ypc - 3 TD in 6 Games for Grant
Peterson had 2 less yards, on 23 less carries against the 3 "bad" teams."I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh
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Well, the other problem is that Grant is not Adrian Peterson and neither is anybody else. Peterson is in a class by himself.One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
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