Why is Favre performing so well this year?

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Talent. Percy Harvin is a freak of nature (super star) and while Green was the best all-around back (or top few) during his prime, he's no AP.

Favre also has an elite D behind him which is not to be under estimated.

I'm not even talking about wins though. His defense should not play in to the fact that he's thrown only 3 INT's this year.

Not true. Everything is inter-related.

With a good D, you know you don't need to score say 30 pts, for example, and that say 17 will do. Ipso facto, he doesn't take the risk of chucking it down field for a pick, for example.

I disagree. I remember at least one game against Cincinatti a few years ago where Favre threw 5 INT's and we lost 21-14 or something like that. Or are you saying that Favre must take risks if he doesn't have a good D? The playoff game against the Eagles or the Vikings where he would launch a lame duck to no one was a result of a less than stellar defense?

There isn't a direct correlation. Having a D does not mean he's not going to take risks or make stupid throws. Having a D likely effects his thought process, though.

[b bulldog]

This is an easy one, first of all, Minnesota makes sure that Brett stays upright during the game. They rarely go to an empty backfield set and Brett is also very good at getting the ball out very quickly. The Vikings Oline is also very good and it helps when you have a player like Klinesaser? at his size to help with blitz pick ups. The Packers blitzed quite a bit during this past game but they were usually picked up.
It also helps when you have a freak at rb like AP. This luxury allows for many 2nd and 3rd and manageable situations. Rarely in this past weeks game was MN in third and long. AP also opens up the pass in terms of the respect that teams give him. As of now, oppossing D's are first trying to stop the run, not the pass. This allows the passing lanes to be much more open for the short slants ect.
Brett has a speedster in Berrian, a possession guy in Rice, and a freak in Harvin. All three of these talented players along with Taylor and Shianco give the Vikings a formidable passing threat. Rice has hands like CCarter and if Berrian ever gets healthy, he will really stretch the d.
He also has a D that puts great pressure on the opposition and a ST's unit that seems to be winning the field position battle, on a weekly basis. lastly and most importantly, Brett has turned into a smart QB. He no longer throws his usual bad throws in a game, he instead uses his head, and the talent around him to keep moving the chains. The Vikings are for real and Brett could easily win his 4th MVP.

[g4orce]

This is an easy one, first of all, Minnesota makes sure that Brett stays upright during the game. They rarely go to an empty backfield set and Brett is also very good at getting the ball out very quickly. The Vikings Oline is also very good and it helps when you have a player like Klinesaser? at his size to help with blitz pick ups. The Packers blitzed quite a bit during this past game but they were usually picked up.
It also helps when you have a freak at rb like AP. This luxury allows for many 2nd and 3rd and manageable situations. Rarely in this past weeks game was MN in third and long. AP also opens up the pass in terms of the respect that teams give him. As of now, oppossing D's are first trying to stop the run, not the pass. This allows the passing lanes to be much more open for the short slants ect.
Brett has a speedster in Berrian, a possession guy in Rice, and a freak in Harvin. All three of these talented players along with Taylor and Shianco give the Vikings a formidable passing threat. Rice has hands like CCarter and if Berrian ever gets healthy, he will really stretch the d.
He also has a D that puts great pressure on the opposition and a ST's unit that seems to be winning the field position battle, on a weekly basis. lastly and most importantly, Brett has turned into a smart QB. He no longer throws his usual bad throws in a game, he instead uses his head, and the talent around him to keep moving the chains. The Vikings are for real and Brett could easily win his 4th MVP.

very nice post!

[Sparkey]

This is an easy one, first of all, Minnesota makes sure that Brett stays upright during the game. They rarely go to an empty backfield set and Brett is also very good at getting the ball out very quickly. The Vikings Oline is also very good and it helps when you have a player like Klinesaser? at his size to help with blitz pick ups. The Packers blitzed quite a bit during this past game but they were usually picked up.
It also helps when you have a freak at rb like AP. This luxury allows for many 2nd and 3rd and manageable situations. Rarely in this past weeks game was MN in third and long. AP also opens up the pass in terms of the respect that teams give him. As of now, oppossing D's are first trying to stop the run, not the pass. This allows the passing lanes to be much more open for the short slants ect.
Brett has a speedster in Berrian, a possession guy in Rice, and a freak in Harvin. All three of these talented players along with Taylor and Shianco give the Vikings a formidable passing threat. Rice has hands like CCarter and if Berrian ever gets healthy, he will really stretch the d.
He also has a D that puts great pressure on the opposition and a ST's unit that seems to be winning the field position battle, on a weekly basis. lastly and most importantly, Brett has turned into a smart QB. He no longer throws his usual bad throws in a game, he instead uses his head, and the talent around him to keep moving the chains. The Vikings are for real and Brett could easily win his 4th MVP.

Except that he is on pace to get sacked 36 times this year, which would be more than any time since the 1998 season when he was sacked 38 times.

[pbmax]

My guess is Chilly would bench #4 if he played like the 05 season. Also #4 may buy-in to the Minny's system more than MM's system.

The same Chilly that was Favre's personal chauffeur? Doubtful, especially given he'd have to put in TJack or Sage instead, not to mention all the $$ Favre brings in to the Vikings.

He's a simple answer: Favre's older and more experienced, he's trying to fit in with a new group of teammates and he has a chip on his shoulder to prove everyone wrong.

Listen to the Brandt interview. Chilly "Kissed #4's ass" to lure him in. Once signed Chilly dictates.

I didn't need to listen to it to find your logic flawed. Favre holds the power in the relationship. Who would he bench 4 for? Rosenfels? Favre came in on his own timeline and he's still changing plays against the wishes of the coaches. Chilly is along for the ride.

Favre is out to prove something and its going well so far for him.

[g4orce]

Favre is out to prove something and its going well so far for him.

I think thats what makes him so intriguing. Dude says there gonna win the Super Bowl, they win the Super Bowl. Dude gets pissed off during a game, usually played better after it. Dude is told he's washed up, cant do it anymore... dude plays better than ever.

[rbaloha1]

My guess is Chilly would bench #4 if he played like the 05 season. Also #4 may buy-in to the Minny's system more than MM's system.

The same Chilly that was Favre's personal chauffeur? Doubtful, especially given he'd have to put in TJack or Sage instead, not to mention all the $$ Favre brings in to the Vikings.

He's a simple answer: Favre's older and more experienced, he's trying to fit in with a new group of teammates and he has a chip on his shoulder to prove everyone wrong.

Listen to the Brandt interview. Chilly "Kissed #4's ass" to lure him in. Once signed Chilly dictates.

I didn't need to listen to it to find your logic flawed. Favre holds the power in the relationship. Who would he bench 4 for? Rosenfels? Favre came in on his own timeline and he's still changing plays against the wishes of the coaches. Chilly is along for the ride.

Favre is out to prove something and its going well so far for him.

Good point. The streak means something to #4. Threaten the streak keeps #4 in-line. Yes, #4 has much to prove -- so far proving it.

[pbmax]

Favre is out to prove something and its going well so far for him.

I think thats what makes him so intriguing. Dude says there gonna win the Super Bowl, they win the Super Bowl. Dude gets pissed off during a game, usually played better after it. Dude is told he's washed up, cant do it anymore... dude plays better than ever.

He has said this before. Praised his teammates as the most talented ever and said "Super Bowl or Bust" and it didn't quite work out that way. His team is playing perfectly well around him now and they are very talented. I think he is willful enough to play very good games against the Packers. It remains to be seen if he can sustain this for the rest of the schedule.

[g4orce]

Favre is out to prove something and its going well so far for him.

I think thats what makes him so intriguing. Dude says there gonna win the Super Bowl, they win the Super Bowl. Dude gets pissed off during a game, usually played better after it. Dude is told he's washed up, cant do it anymore... dude plays better than ever.

He has said this before. Praised his teammates as the most talented ever and said "Super Bowl or Bust" and it didn't quite work out that way. His team is playing perfectly well around him now and they are very talented. I think he is willful enough to play very good games against the Packers. It remains to be seen if he can sustain this for the rest of the schedule.

I feel all those indoor games are going to benefit him greatly and the fact that even in the playoffs he may not have to leave the indoors whether its them or the Saints will homefield all the way thru. I also think he's telling the truth about how his arm feels and that it hasnt felt as good as it has in years. I think that Dr. Andrews does wonders for a lot of athletes. Those might be the 2 biggest factors in the whole thing. Now, all he has to do is avoid the big hit and I really don't see this Viking team being stopped unless it is truly by the better opponent or a team thats just flat out hot.

[Scott Campbell]

All that extra work with the high schoolers this summer really paid off.

[g4orce]

All that extra work with the high schoolers this summer really paid off.

Isn't it great that a guy like Favre can just disprove all that bullshit stuff they do all year long? Guys like him shouldnt have to attend that shit. It's pointless. These guys need their time off as well and maybe if they had it, more would play as long and as good as Brett has.


I've figure out in a hurry youre going to be a Brett Favre hater, no matter how many times he crams that football in the Packers endzone with a smile on his face.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

All that extra work with the high schoolers this summer really paid off.

Isn't it great that a guy like Favre can just disprove all that bullshit stuff they do all year long? Guys like him shouldnt have to attend that shit. It's pointless. These guys need their time off as well and maybe if they had it, more would play as long and as good as Brett has.


I've figure out in a hurry youre going to be a Brett Favre hater, no matter how many times he crams that football in the Packers endzone with a smile on his face.

And, we've figured that you are TT hater and Bert lover.

[g4orce]

All that extra work with the high schoolers this summer really paid off.

Isn't it great that a guy like Favre can just disprove all that bullshit stuff they do all year long? Guys like him shouldnt have to attend that shit. It's pointless. These guys need their time off as well and maybe if they had it, more would play as long and as good as Brett has.


I've figure out in a hurry youre going to be a Brett Favre hater, no matter how many times he crams that football in the Packers endzone with a smile on his face.

And, we've figured that you are TT hater and Bert lover.

I'm not a TT hater because of the Favre fiasco though. Well I shouldn't put it that way. That was just the icing on the cake. I don't like his ways of building a team, hate me for it, but I really don't care. We now are seeing how shitty of a team this is. Any time we face real talent, we fold. I wasn't a MM hater for the first couple years, but I sure as hell am now.

side note: I had a dream that Holmgren came back as our GM and Gruden came back as our head coach. Oh its nice to live in the fantasy world.

[Scott Campbell]

I've figure out in a hurry youre going to be a Brett Favre hater, no matter how many times he crams that football in the Packers endzone with a smile on his face.

I strongly disapprove of all lying scumbags, regardless of their ability to win a few football games.

[MadtownPacker]

I strongly disapprove of all lying scumbags, regardless of their ability to win a few football games.

Save it, you most likely lie daily at work and probably at home too.