Players do not want to come to GB?

[bobblehead]

As of 2009 opening day rosters approximately 65% of NFL players are African-American, which includes players of "mixed-race" background as well as Samoan and Polynesian decent.

Might just seem like more since you don't really see the white players on the bench during the game.

Man, sure doesnt seem that way watching the games. D might have a MLB, DL and S that is White. Offense would be the QB, a few OL, maybe the FB and of course the token White WR (Jordy ).

I guess that would be about 65%.

The packers have 10 of 22 starters white (If the white FB is starting). This is higher than 35% therefore I believe you are right mad...Black dudes just don't want to come to GB.

Don't be an ass.

You are smart enough to know that anyone with a brain can see that your facts have a whole wide enough to drive a bus through them.

And, why do you list starters..why is that?

Clue: How many of those black players arrived through free agency?

Yes, the facts were meant to drive a bus through, I was being sarcastic. See my above post for a serious response.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

To be up there with four of the WORST teams in the NFL tells you everything you need to know. None of these young, mostly Black males wants to live around what they perceive to be racist/hick/redneck/cracka people. Even if the Packers are a playoff caliber team. Probably doesnt help that the GM is a cheapskate at times. Also doesnt help that the fatass coach is keeping his job while eating all the food at the team buffet table.

Funny, I didn't see the poll broken down by race. I must have missed that part.

Funny, I didn't see you pretending to be ignorant.

Last I checked the majority of players are Black. Not all but way more than half for sure.

And again, for all you know the blacks rated it higher than the whites so race has NOTHING to do with the ratings. Like I said, its not broken down by race so your ugly conclusion is based on your bias and nothing else.

Pretending it isn't an issue doesn't make you right.

The facts are the facts..and we have REPEATED examples of black players ON THE RECORD not wanting to play in GB.

It wasn't by accident that Wolf instituted a different food for the training table...southern style/soul food, brought in a barber that knew how to cut black men's hair, etc.

It must be nice to live in your fantasy world...it is just coincidence that minorities don't live in GB.

Ty, I honestly believe that race issues don't play into how most players answered this, the fact that it is a small boring town is the factor. I'm not pretending when I say I don't think its an issue.

I know you don't. But, that is being naive. It is a boring town, but you are being blind if you don't think no soul food/type of food you grew up with, no community, no barber, no clothing, etc...doesn't play a part.

You know the old cliche..birds of a feather...well, it has truth to it. People like to be around themselves. Look at this country..and immigrants..when they moved here. Irish lived with irish, italians with italians, etc.

Until you are a minority you will have a hard time understanding that....not a diss, but it is the truth.

[HowardRoark]

.....no barber....

What's the deal with this anyway? I was going by a hair place last Saturday night around 6:30 pm downtown Minneapolis and it was FULL of black people. Is this a social gathering place in their culture? They were having things done to their hair, so it's not as though they were just sitting around bullshitting.

I would never think of going out on a Sarurday night to get my hair cut. But, then again, I am white.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

.....no barber....

What's the deal with this anyway? I was going by a hair place last Saturday night around 6:30 pm downtown Minneapolis and it was FULL of black people. Is this a social gathering place in their culture? They were having things done to their hair, so it's not as though they were just sitting around bullshitting.

I would never think of going out on a Sarurday night to get my hair cut. But, then again, I am white.

1. you have to have a barber that knows how to cut black hair, do the styles, and cut those cool ass figures in hair.
2. From the black guys i've known, they tend to keep it short..so it gets "unruly" quickly. They like to get it trimmed/touched up more often than most folks. But, if you think about the 50s..guys use to get a trim once a week or every other week. Ty has often been astonished when a black friend would comment on needing to tighten up their do...yet, i couldn't see it at all.
3. Traditionally, the barbershop was a meeting place, yes, a social gathering place..where news, gossip, etc. was exchanged.

If you think about it, you have probably heard college players talk about which teammate gives them cuts. That is usually cos there isn't a black barber in the town...or they can't afford to keep going as often as they want.

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[Fritz]

To be up there with four of the WORST teams in the NFL tells you everything you need to know. None of these young, mostly Black males wants to live around what they perceive to be racist/hick/redneck/cracka people. Even if the Packers are a playoff caliber team. Probably doesnt help that the GM is a cheapskate at times. Also doesnt help that the fatass coach is keeping his job while eating all the food at the team buffet table.

Funny, I didn't see the poll broken down by race. I must have missed that part.

Funny, I didn't see you pretending to be ignorant.

Last I checked the majority of players are Black. Not all but way more than half for sure.

And again, for all you know the blacks rated it higher than the whites so race has NOTHING to do with the ratings. Like I said, its not broken down by race so your ugly conclusion is based on your bias and nothing else.

Pretending it isn't an issue doesn't make you right.

The facts are the facts..and we have REPEATED examples of black players ON THE RECORD not wanting to play in GB.

It wasn't by accident that Wolf instituted a different food for the training table...southern style/soul food, brought in a barber that knew how to cut black men's hair, etc.

It must be nice to live in your fantasy world...it is just coincidence that minorities don't live in GB.

Ty, I honestly believe that race issues don't play into how most players answered this, the fact that it is a small boring town is the factor. I'm not pretending when I say I don't think its an issue.

I know you don't. But, that is being naive. It is a boring town, but you are being blind if you don't think no soul food/type of food you grew up with, no community, no barber, no clothing, etc...doesn't play a part.

You know the old cliche..birds of a feather...well, it has truth to it. People like to be around themselves. Look at this country..and immigrants..when they moved here. Irish lived with irish, italians with italians, etc.

Until you are a minority you will have a hard time understanding that....not a diss, but it is the truth.

It is a well known fact that white people like boring towns better than black people do. This is simply because most white people are more boring than black people.

[mraynrand]

It is a well known fact that white people like boring towns better than black people do. This is simply because most white people are more boring than black people.

The exception that proves the rule:

[SnakeLH2006]

None of those poll results are surprising at all:

1) If Snake was a young buck with cash (wait...I am, WTF?)...I'd want to get into the clubs (Snake still does do that). GB has nothing to offer. I've been there. Chicks pale compared to the Cali and Vegas clubs I go to several times yearly on vacation. Not even close.
2) GB is cold as hell. Snake still aspires to move to the West Coast (great climate). The cold sucks. It really does.
3) TT is a great talent evaluator, but looks stingy as piss. He ups his own guys with contracts, but doesn't do shit (Woodson and Pickett were deals for him) for FA's. That's why they spurn us. And no prob. there as that's why our cap is healthy, but the hell if some guy wanting to get some cash as a FA considers GB under TT. He'll never pay market value....and that's not a diss on TT, but only on prospective outlooks as a FA on TT.

Basically, not surprising, but it's mostly on TT being a tight ass with talent/money. That's good for us fans, but every FA knows that TT won't overpay some cash...he pays his own. Good for us...bad for FA's. Not really a big deal. He's a good GM. I'd rather offer/get moderate deals with our own prospective FA's than offer mega-deals to other team's FA "stars" in this market. How did that Haynesworth deal pay off for the winner Redskins, for ex.? Food for thought.....

[MJZiggy]

It is a well known fact that white people like boring towns better than black people do. This is simply because most white people are more boring than black people.

Define boring. I'm not boring...

[mraynrand]

It is a well known fact that white people like boring towns better than black people do. This is simply because most white people are more boring than black people.

Define boring. I'm not boring...

I enjoy boring.

[HowardRoark]

It is a well known fact that white people like boring towns better than black people do. This is simply because most white people are more boring than black people.

Define boring. I'm not boring...

I enjoy boring.

This is why no one discusses boring things with you.

[pbmax]

3) TT is a great talent evaluator, but looks stingy as piss. He ups his own guys with contracts, but doesn't do shit (Woodson and Pickett were deals for him) for FA's.

Pickett's deal was completed while fighting with another team's offer (Buffalo maybe?). Woodson got more money than anyone else was offering at the time, in fact the most common remark (other than "injury") about the signing was "overpaid".

[mission]

3) TT is a great talent evaluator, but looks stingy as piss. He ups his own guys with contracts, but doesn't do shit (Woodson and Pickett were deals for him) for FA's.

Pickett's deal was completed while fighting with another team's offer (Buffalo maybe?). Woodson got more money than anyone else was offering at the time, in fact the most common remark (other than "injury") about the signing was "overpaid".

Yeah, well have you read the top story on JSO Packers??? Kinda sad imo... Im assuming he just knows a lot that we don't (TT).

[bobblehead]

It is a well known fact that white people like boring towns better than black people do. This is simply because most white people are more boring than black people.

Define boring. I'm not boring...

From what I've learned in this thread.....White. J/K, boring is small towns with no clubs, no real night life, Minimal diversity of restaurants, etc. Hell, my home town didn't even have a gym when I was growing up.

[MJZiggy]

3) TT is a great talent evaluator, but looks stingy as piss. He ups his own guys with contracts, but doesn't do shit (Woodson and Pickett were deals for him) for FA's.

Pickett's deal was completed while fighting with another team's offer (Buffalo maybe?). Woodson got more money than anyone else was offering at the time, in fact the most common remark (other than "injury") about the signing was "overpaid".

The Rams wanted Pickett back. He chose us instead.