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  • #31
    He has two problems, one should be correctable, but hasn't been fixed yet. McGinn has kept count of how many misses he has with the ball going wide right off the right hash. This has been pretty consistent since the start of the season. It should have been addressed by Game 13.

    I am not nearly as concerned over the over 50 yds stuff.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by BallHawk
      Why hasn't anybody mentioned that McCarthy was basically playing for a 40+ yard FG in cold weather? Crosby should make that kick, but why is MM completely contempt with just letting the kid kick it from far out? If you want to remedy the problem you let him kick a few short ones to get his confidence up.

      And calling for his head is just stupid. I'm all for bringing in competition during camp, but if anybody seriously thinks that there's somebody out there that would be better for this team than Crosby...that's just stupid.
      I was wondering the same thing. MM is a dipshit and he continues to amaze me.

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      • #33
        edit.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Patler
          Originally posted by red
          wheres patler?

          was that hold off too?
          I have no idea whether it was or not, just as I didn't last week (although I suspected it from the bobbled snap). I didn't know until Slocum explained it. Are you doubting my explanation last week, after Slocum said almost exactly the same thing that I did?

          Yes, Crosby should have made the kick today. I would have expected him to make the kick. I did expect him to make the kick. Was I shocked that he missed? No. Would I have been shocked if any kicker missed it? No, not really. Would I have wanted my kicker to make it? Yes.

          That being said, take a look at what's available out there. Not much. Heck, as I explained last week, kicks from beyond 40 are not automatic for any of the kickers on teams, no matter what you would like to think.

          Haven't watched the game yet, but I did listen to it. I will watch it tonight. The kick was wide right, wasn't it. Most of his misses have been wide right, which leads me to believe it is correctable. But it will take a coach who understands kicking to sort it out.

          I wouldn't give up on Crosby yet, but I would certainly start looking in the off season.
          I tend to be with you on this Patler.

          It was a 42 yd try, outside, in December. If Longwell was still on the team, and MM tried to send him out, he would have refused.

          What bobble said concerns me, that he has missed 5 of the last 6 important 2nd half kicks. If that's true, it speak of a confidence problem. Or, maybe that the coach is sending him out in impossible situations.
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          • #35
            It is clear that something needs to be fixed, but wouldn't it be wonderful to jettison Crosby and have it work out as well as it did dumping Jon Ryan? Or finding out when the next kicker comes in and starts missing wide right on long kicks too, that it is really a problem with Flynn? Years back the Packers were missing field goals frequently, brought in a new holder (I think it was Pederson) and things improved.

            If Crosby is the problem, replace him when you are confident that you have someone better, and only when you are sure that the problem is him.

            I have to admit, I feel a bit sorry for Crosby. At one time he was 18/19 (I think, something like that) on kicks under 50 yards, and the one miss was from 40-something; yet people were already complaining about his "inconsistency". He might have let that play with his head a bit. He shouldn't have, but I suspect he might have.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by ThunderDan
              Originally posted by BallHawk
              Why hasn't anybody mentioned that McCarthy was basically playing for a 40+ yard FG in cold weather? Crosby should make that kick, but why is MM completely contempt with just letting the kid kick it from far out? If you want to remedy the problem you let him kick a few short ones to get his confidence up.

              And calling for his head is just stupid. I'm all for bringing in competition during camp, but if anybody seriously thinks that there's somebody out there that would be better for this team than Crosby...that's just stupid.
              Sounds like everyone else 5 weeks ago calling for every coach to be fired!
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                Originally posted by ThunderDan
                Originally posted by BallHawk
                Why hasn't anybody mentioned that McCarthy was basically playing for a 40+ yard FG in cold weather? Crosby should make that kick, but why is MM completely contempt with just letting the kid kick it from far out? If you want to remedy the problem you let him kick a few short ones to get his confidence up.

                And calling for his head is just stupid. I'm all for bringing in competition during camp, but if anybody seriously thinks that there's somebody out there that would be better for this team than Crosby...that's just stupid.
                Sounds like everyone else 5 weeks ago calling for every coach to be fired!
                New dog, same fleas.
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                • #38
                  Two things:

                  Nick Folk missed a 42 yarder today that could have kept the Cowboys in the game. He's been pulling them bad. And they changed holders, back to Romo. Still no good.

                  Also, I don't understand what happened to Crosby's booming kickoffs. I watched two other games today and several times in both games the kicks were to the back of the end zone. A touchback is the best friend special teams have, along with coffin-corner and inside the 10 punts -- which we aren't doing anymore either.

                  Didn't we let Longwell go because his kickoffs were so pathetic. Now even he's booming them.

                  Maybe it's a special team's coaching strategy to kickoff short. If it is, I don't buy it.
                  One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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                  • #39
                    Okay, so people want to cut Crosby because he's missed some makeable field goals.

                    Again, though - who do you bring in?

                    Suisham? The kicker the Skins cut because he....missed a short field goal?

                    Nick Folk missed a clutch 43 yarder today. The Cowboys' head coach didn't exactly give the guy a big endorsement in his post game interview.

                    If the Cowboys cut him, do you want him?

                    Who else is out there who is better? Names?
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                    • #40
                      We could probably try out your mom, but I hear she's returning kicks somewhere...
                      "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                      • #41
                        And if it's against the Packers, she might score.

                        Does this mean my mom is easy?? Hmmm.
                        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

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                        • #42
                          [not touching with 10-ft. pole...]
                          "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                          • #43
                            Strong leg with a nice stroke. Crosby's pre season problems continued to the regular season.

                            Agree if percentage does not improve tremendously its time for a new kicker next season.

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                            • #44
                              He's having some major issues from the right hash at present...he's lost confidence from there. That isn't a good reason to jettison a kicker with a bona fide NFL leg. Let him work hard on things this offseason...and bring in some competition in preseason to push him.

                              I see no reason to consider dumping Crosby just yet. Few kickers come into the NFL and make an immediate impact...but Crosby did. It is easy to sit on the couch and claim that everyone needs to be fired after some struggles on the field. I'm willing to give the kid some time to work out his issues...but putting together a plan B this offseason isn't foolish either.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by The Leaper
                                He's having some major issues from the right hash at present...he's lost confidence from there. That isn't a good reason to jettison a kicker with a bona fide NFL leg. Let him work hard on things this offseason...and bring in some competition in preseason to push him.

                                I see no reason to consider dumping Crosby just yet. Few kickers come into the NFL and make an immediate impact...but Crosby did. It is easy to sit on the couch and claim that everyone needs to be fired after some struggles on the field. I'm willing to give the kid some time to work out his issues...but putting together a plan B this offseason isn't foolish either.

                                this!!

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