Atari Bigby

[esoxx]

erected suck-ass hole

Take it to the Garbage Can

[SkinBasket]

[erected suck-ass hole

Take it to the Garbage Can

You love it.

[esoxx]

[erected suck-ass hole

Take it to the Garbage Can

You love it.

[ThunderDan]

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Bad day to be a fan of nearly anybody on defense. They all played poorly. Bush and Bigby were often victimized....not sure they were that much more than anybody else though

The middle of the field might as well of had a "vacancy" sign erected in it. At least it might have deflected a pass or two.
The entire defense was busy trying to cover that gaping, suck-ass hole all night and couldn't. If there's any consolation for Bigby fans, at least Giordano wasn't any better... Although we did tie the game with him playing SS, so he must be a catalyst of some sort by the same logic we've seen this week.

That made me laugh!!!

[SkinBasket]

That made me laugh!!!

Ironically, that's all we can do right now. Laugh sad, sobbing laughs and wonder what happened to the magical Atari Bigby.

Although we should note, once again, that our only defensive stop of the night, outside of the turnover, came when Bigby left the field.

[retailguy]

That made me laugh!!!

Ironically, that's all we can do right now. Laugh sad, sobbing laughs and wonder what happened to the magical Atari Bigby.

Although we should note, once again, that our only defensive stop of the night, outside of the turnover, came when Bigby left the field.

[mraynrand]

I hope someone starts a new Bigby thread. This one is getting stale.

[SkinBasket]

I hope someone starts a new Bigby thread. This one is getting stale.

Last night was a sobering experience. Give them time to cope.

[RashanGary]

I think yesterdays performance was about more than Atari Bigby. Williams, Collins, Bush and Bell weren't exactly making plays and the pass rush wasn't exactly sifling.

Time will tell. Your arguement was made stronger yesterday, maybe you're right. I still like Bigby though, think more evidence points to him being good than horrible.

[get louder at lambeau]

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Bad day to be a fan of nearly anybody on defense. They all played poorly. Bush and Bigby were often victimized....not sure they were that much more than anybody else though

I think you mean they all played poorly except Clay Matthews.

I agree that the whole D had a rough day, but Bush and Bigby were often victimized? Not really. They didn't play well, but the highlight tape shows Woodson getting victimized more than anyone else. Check the Kurt Warner highlight tape at nfl.com, linked below. Woodson got scored on twice, and maybe three times. Not Bush. Not Bigby. Woodson.

The two TDs that he fell down after contact with Fitz are on him and no one else, unless you want to blame the refs, and the first AZ passing TD Woodson was standing there not covering anyone in particular as Doucet runs free. I can't tell if that's on him, Collins or maybe Bigby, but Bigby was the only safety deep, so he has to stay deeper than the deepest, right? If so, it's between Wood and Collins. Collins is keying on the RB in motion since before the snap, and he follows him out wide. Woodson doesn't cover anybody, and jogs towards the middle as the ball is caught. That's a total of 21 points in those three plays that look like they are on Woodson to me.

The last one I mentioned is at the 20 second mark of the video below. I can't really say for sure it's on Chuck, but it sure looks like it's on either Collins or him. My first thought is Collins, but how he's shadowing the RB makes me think it's not. Even if Chuck's not to blame for the last one, he is for the other two TDs, 14 points.

I don't think Bush gave up a TD. Bigby either. Why are they the ones being talked about and not Chuck? Is it like how it was always the receivers' fault if Faver threw an INT? Is Woodson above criticism?

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d815a55b7/Wild-Card-Kurt-Warner-highlights

[Smidgeon]

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Bad day to be a fan of nearly anybody on defense. They all played poorly. Bush and Bigby were often victimized....not sure they were that much more than anybody else though

I think you mean they all played poorly except Clay Matthews.

I agree that the whole D had a rough day, but Bush and Bigby were often victimized? Not really. They didn't play well, but the highlight tape shows Woodson getting victimized more than anyone else. Check the Kurt Warner highlight tape at nfl.com, linked below. Woodson got scored on twice, and maybe three times. Not Bush. Not Bigby. Woodson.

The two TDs that he fell down after contact with Fitz are on him and no one else, unless you want to blame the refs, and the first AZ passing TD Woodson was standing there not covering anyone in particular as Doucet runs free. I can't tell if that's on him, Collins or maybe Bigby, but Bigby was the only safety deep, so he has to stay deeper than the deepest, right? If so, it's between Wood and Collins. Collins is keying on the RB in motion since before the snap, and he follows him out wide. Woodson doesn't cover anybody, and jogs towards the middle as the ball is caught. That's a total of 21 points in those three plays that look like they are on Woodson to me.

The last one I mentioned is at the 20 second mark of the video below. I can't really say for sure it's on Chuck, but it sure looks like it's on either Collins or him. My first thought is Collins, but how he's shadowing the RB makes me think it's not. Even if Chuck's not to blame for the last one, he is for the other two TDs, 14 points.

I don't think Bush gave up a TD. Bigby either. Why are they the ones being talked about and not Chuck? Is it like how it was always the receivers' fault if Faver threw an INT? Is Woodson above criticism?

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...ner-highlights

http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?p=497254#497254

[get louder at lambeau]

Thanks Smidgeon. I'll take my ball over there.

[Smidgeon]

Thanks Smidgeon. I'll take my ball over there.

Thought I'd help out.

[SkinBasket]

I don't think Bush gave up a TD. Bigby either. Why are they the ones being talked about and not Chuck? Is it like how it was always the receivers' fault if Faver threw an INT? Is Woodson above criticism?

Maybe it's because Woodson is one of the best CBs in the league, Williams has held his own - covering just as well as Harris did, and wasn't too bad against AZ outside of tackling like a pansy, Collins is going to the Pro Bowl again, and Bush and Bigby suck. Bush covered the wrong receiver multiple times, allowing his guy to run uncovered, and couldn't cover whoever he did end up on. Bigby might as well have not been on the field. We can't use him near the line, and he was too dumb and slow to offer any help deep or close on any of the big plays and just make a tackle - which is kind of what you would hope your deep safety would do.