Grade the Last Decade of Packer Drafts

[Fritz]

Man, as good as Wolf's 2000 draft was, that's how bad his 2001 draft was.

It does look like Thompson's pooper draft so far is the 07 draft.

Jackson, Jones....okay. But so far just okay. Harrell - we probably will never know. Crosby may be - may be - the saving grace.

[packerbacker1234]

I think the 2000 draft was vastly superior to the 2005 draft. We got collins and rodgers, all the rest of the players from that draft? Irrelevant.

In 2000 we got our tackles that are still solidifying our a line a decade later, we got a sack machine in KGB (people tend to forget just how good he use to be, simply because of how fast he fell off), Na'il Diggs was decent for us, and still playing as impact player in the NFL. Bubba Franks was a consistent Probowl tight end for us, even if he was really just an average Tight End that caught a lot of TD's.

Hard to argue with that draft line up.

[get louder at lambeau]

He has done little to fix it? He drafted Colledge, Spitz, Sitton, Moll, Barbre, Giacomini, Merideth and Lang, off the top of my head.

Exactly...and it still isn't fixed. Some of these guys have flashed some potential, some are complete flops. None of them is a difference maker. None of them have come in, taken a position by the throat and made it theirs.

8 draft picks...and our OL is no more settled today than it was 5 years ago. Granted, I'll lay some of the blame on McCarthy and Campen too...they are mediocre when it comes to teaching these kids IMO.

That is why I have little confidence that TT can suddenly pull a rabbit from the hat and mastermind a strong OL this offseason. He made lots of ATTEMPTS to fix it, but it still ain't fixed when you give up 51 sacks.

Continually hoping that your last 2-3 picks will finally turn the corner after 2-3 years in the league doesn't work. Plenty of kids come into the NFL from college and do just fine as rookies on the OL.

Did I say he has fixed it, or did I take issue with your statement that "He has done little"? Come on now. And then this- "None of them have come in, taken a position by the throat and made it theirs." Um... Josh Sitton is in that list. He started every game this year (only his second year) at RG and played very, very well. He has EXACTLY "come in, taken a position by the throat and made it (his)." He even won the starting RG position as a rookie before spraining his knee. Spitz isn't exactly chopped liver either. Same with Colledge at G. He sucked backing up LT this year, but mainly played well at G over the last few years.

The interior 3 positions of our line are in great shape, with more players than positions to go around. Tackle is a problem behind the old timers. For some reason, many Packer fans choose to just generalize and act like the whole OL sucks. It doesn't, unless one of the starting tackles goes down. That means we lack depth at tackle, not that the OL sucks. Let's not overstate things.

[cheesner]

He has done little to fix it? He drafted Colledge, Spitz, Sitton, Moll, Barbre, Giacomini, Merideth and Lang, off the top of my head.

Exactly...and it still isn't fixed. Some of these guys have flashed some potential, some are complete flops. None of them is a difference maker. None of them have come in, taken a position by the throat and made it theirs.

8 draft picks...and our OL is no more settled today than it was 5 years ago. Granted, I'll lay some of the blame on McCarthy and Campen too...they are mediocre when it comes to teaching these kids IMO.

That is why I have little confidence that TT can suddenly pull a rabbit from the hat and mastermind a strong OL this offseason. He made lots of ATTEMPTS to fix it, but it still ain't fixed when you give up 51 sacks.

Continually hoping that your last 2-3 picks will finally turn the corner after 2-3 years in the league doesn't work. Plenty of kids come into the NFL from college and do just fine as rookies on the OL.

Did I say he has fixed it, or did I take issue with your statement that "He has done little"? Come on now. And then this- "None of them have come in, taken a position by the throat and made it theirs." Um... Josh Sitton is in that list. He started every game this year (only his second year) at RG and played very, very well. He has EXACTLY "come in, taken a position by the throat and made it (his)." He even won the starting RG position as a rookie before spraining his knee. Spitz isn't exactly chopped liver either. Same with Colledge at G. He sucked backing up LT this year, but mainly played well at G over the last few years.

The interior 3 positions of our line are in great shape, with more players than positions to go around. Tackle is a problem behind the old timers. For some reason, many Packer fans choose to just generalize and act like the whole OL sucks. It doesn't, unless one of the starting tackles goes down. That means we lack depth at tackle, not that the OL sucks. Let's not overstate things.

And you forgot to mention TJ Lang, who played very well for a rookie who was forced to play several positions. The fact that they had him fill in at multiple positions tells me the staff thinks highly of him and he should be a fixture on the line sooner rather than later.

College has played outstanding football at times. Not sure why he stunk last season, but to ignore his highlights is not fair.

Remember what TT inherited. 2 very good Tackles, No guards (that he could afford) and an oft injured Center. Couple that with little to no depth and I don't know how you can say that the situation now is any worse. We now have solid interior players and some depth there. We have the same OTs and also a couple of OT prospects who we are not too sure about - yet. But considering 2 of our cast-offs started for other NFL teams last season, there must be some talent.

[Little Whiskey]

I think the 2000 draft was vastly superior to the 2005 draft. We got collins and rodgers, all the rest of the players from that draft? Irrelevant.

In 2000 we got our tackles that are still solidifying our a line a decade later, we got a sack machine in KGB (people tend to forget just how good he use to be, simply because of how fast he fell off), Na'il Diggs was decent for us, and still playing as impact player in the NFL. Bubba Franks was a consistent Probowl tight end for us, even if he was really just an average Tight End that caught a lot of TD's.

Hard to argue with that draft line up.

I think anytime you find a qb that has played to Rodgers lvl that makes it a great class. every other player could have busted and it would have been a A draft. the qb position is that important to a football team.