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    Yes, it will be an intimate affair when we meet to celebrate the Left Guard of the Past, Present and Future. Members must be steady in mind, strong in spirit and possibly stubborn.

    Outside of Allen Barbre in four games last year, Colledge wears the mantle of Thompson's failure to get better then mediocre production (and mediocre consistency) out of his retooled offensive line. A second round pick, he was Thompson's highest O line pick until Bulaga this year. As such, he gets blame both deserved and undeserved, often for failures not of his own making.

    People look to the line before almost any other position group on the Packer offense when it struggles, perhaps even more often than QB, now that Rodgers has two seasons of solid play. But the O Line has been better than advertised (it has been advertised as the O Line equivalent of the Maginot Line) and Colledge's strengths and weaknesses are misunderstood and in the case of the latter, overstated.

    Colledge performed as the best lineman on a Packer's team in 2008 that allowed 34 sacks and was completely average running the football (14th in Att, 17th in Yards and 18th in Y/A). Of the team's starters, he may be the team's best run blocker (Barbre might be as good, but sources close to me have suggested that Rodgers will retire if he starts anywhere for the Packers again). This gets virtually no notice because both tackles struggle with the run game, one historically (Clifton) and both because age have made them less mobile and ill-suited to the ZBS cutoff blocks. That, and the Packer running backs are in the last 1/3rd of the league in getting second tier yards and going deep.

    Few remember that the increased success of the Packer's run game in 2009 often came from plays right behind Colledge. He also shares credit with Sitton for increased success in Power situations, as witnessed by the curious but continued success of the fantabulous fullback dive. The Packers best running plays were up between the guards (4.71 Adjusted Line Yards-Football Outsiders), with the only greater results coming from runs to Right End (4.86 ALY) which defies explanation and must have happened when a seismic tremor caused the defense to fall down. Often. Only on runs to the Right End.

    That he has largely solved his first year weakness (run blocking) is usually ignored to focus on his continued difficulty with anchoring (he can be bull rushed) and the occasional whiff on a stunt or quick pass rusher. It is the latter technique issue that is maddening because Colledge has pass blocked well against quick DTs (Justin Tuck) and if his only pass blocking flaw was anchoring, he would be performing similar to the previous longstanding LG Mike Wahle.

    But it is worth noting that a significant percentage of Colledge's worst performances last year were while at Left Tackle. Its clear now that he is not ready for LT and some percentage of his midseason struggle moving back to guard can likely be attributed to the adjustment. More importantly, while Barbre was behaving like a turnstile at the beginning of the year, Clifton struggled as well. With Rodgers on skates, a lot of lineman gave up sacks on unexpected change of direction as pass rushers redirected to chase the shuffling Rodgers.

    Once Lang, then Tauscher stabilized RT and Clifton got healthy at LT, the entire line pass blocked better. If Colledge had continued to be the sieve he has been made out to be, Rodgers sack numbers would not have fallen as dramatically. Its also worth noting that a change in game plan (and in Rodgers assignments at the LOS) also affected the rate of sacks. In this environment, its difficult to assess how much Colledge regressed in pass blocking. While everyone will remember the pressure he gave up on the last play of the playoff game, that single play, nor his time at LT, should define his season.

    You read it here first, at what might be the only single Rat fan club on this board, Colledge will be at LG in 2010, ahead of Spitz, Lang and Newhouse.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

  • #2
    I agree with everything you said here PB. But I'm still not joining your club.

    Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Gunakor
      I agree with everything you said here PB. But I'm still not joining your club.

      I understand. We don't judge those unwilling to commit. And I recognize that I might be holding several offices at once.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #4
        After drafting Bugula I see the coaches giving Lang a chance to start at LG and I don't see Colledge beating him.

        I don't dislike the guy but he is nothing special in my eyes and could easily be replaced.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Brandon494
          After drafting Bugula I see the coaches giving Lang a chance to start at LG and I don't see Colledge beating him.

          I don't dislike the guy but he is nothing special in my eyes and could easily be replaced.
          Lang might be able to do it, but M3 is on record that his coaches want Lang at RT. So only 30% of his snaps will come at LG (M3's approximation).

          If he can do it, great. We need more consistent O Line play. But I don't see it as the plan stands.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #6
            HOT FROM THE PRESSES

            PB is serving up free HALF POUND CHEESEBURGERS for anybody willing to join his club.
            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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            • #7
              Nice summary of Colledge. I think you are spot on with who will be starting in 2010 too.
              Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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              • #8
                I'd rather have an average starting 5 and well trained depth than a good starting 5 and disaster if we have injury.

                The way McCarthy is handling this, I think the season will start faster (having guys training more exclusively at one position) and finish stronger (being more prepared to handle injury).

                This is the best depth McCarthy has ever had on the line. I look forward to a really stable season of line play. And Colledge might be the weak link, but he's pretty alright. I think pb hit it right on the head here.
                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                • #9
                  I'll sign up.....after all he is a fellow Alaskan.

                  I think he gets this thing figured out and dominates.
                  C.H.U.D.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                    I'd rather have an average starting 5 and well trained depth than a good starting 5 and disaster if we have injury.

                    The way McCarthy is handling this, I think the season will start faster (having guys training more exclusively at one position) and finish stronger (being more prepared to handle injury).

                    This is the best depth McCarthy has ever had on the line. I look forward to a really stable season of line play. And Colledge might be the weak link, but he's pretty alright. I think pb hit it right on the head here.
                    That fast start and strong finish is dependent on Colledge beating out Spitz at LG. Spitz can back up at any interior line position in case of injury, so if he wins the starting job and Scottie Wells goes down we are shuffling guys around again. It's critical from a depth standpoint IMO that Colledge win that job.
                    Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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                    • #11
                      Extremely well written analysis of Colledge. DC has the physical tools but lacks consistency. Lack of upper body strength is still embarrassing.

                      IMO Colledge's failure to secure a long term contract shall continue to plague him. Another player will demonstrate more consistency and snag his position. Maybe we can get a Tony Moll deal.

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                      • #12
                        that's the funniest new topic title i have read in awhile

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                        • #13
                          let me know where you are meeting and I'll show up with a protest sign.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by retailguy
                            let me know where you are meeting and I'll show up with a protest sign.
                            Will do.

                            No tomatoes.

                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #15
                              I expect the club will require leather patches on the elbows, you being a colledge man and all.
                              [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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