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  • #31
    Originally posted by Tarlam!
    Originally posted by rbaloha
    The next time DC loses the job its aloha.
    Mayybe what I read about the guy is incorrect. What I read about his attitude isn't what i want to be reading.

    I admire the way Nick Collins did it.

    Collins was also an RFA. He did not sign the tender until just before he signed his contract. The reason? So his agent could call it an extension rather than averaging in that low 4th year. Because they signed the tender before they signed the contract, it read like a 3 year, 8 mil per year extension. If he would not have signed the tender, it would have read a 4 year, 6 mil per year deal. One makes the agent look great, the other makes him look bad.

    And many of the Packs RFA's waited until a couple weeks ago to sign the tender. They were all together in the holdout but for whatever reason Colledge was singled out from the start as the bad guy. I didn't get it then, don't get it now.

    DC thinks he's a solid player, thinks a team might be willing to trade for him and pay him. He was an older rookie. This is his only chance to really get paid. He owes it to himself to do his best to get a contract now.

    He'll come in. The situation those RFA's got stuck with just stinks, but he'll come around, realize there's nothing he can do and if the Packers don't want to keep him around, he'll be rightfully waiting and hoping to get with the team taht does as soon as possible. That's the reality of the situation. DC is not a bad guy. It's not in the rules that he has to sign this tender at a certain time. Everything he's doing is well within the rules and well within good common sense judgment.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by swede
      Originally posted by Tarlam!
      Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
      If Spitz can't beat-out a very average starter, it is not so hard to keep him off the field.
      Reminds me of what I read about Ryan Grant - they have to play him 'cause he leaves them no choice.

      PB, I aint joining your fanclub. Colledge aint no Packer People.
      He seems like the Andy Bernard of the O-Line.
      LOL I'm watching office reruns right now... exactly right.

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      • #33
        Colledge's inconsistency drives me nuts. However, he does know the position and is able to avoid injuries and stay in the lineup. I like the idea of going into next season with a veteran offense line. If they're going to have Lang concentrate on RT, then I'm okay with Colledge. He's a better Guard than Spitz.
        I can't run no more
        With that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places
        Say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
        A thundercloud
        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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        • #34
          Lets see if DC shows up to mini camps. Hopefully he holds out forcing a trade.

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          • #35
            Does Colledge still do those player interview-things on Packer TV? Or did he get cancelled?

            They weren't all that bad, but I kept thinking as I watched them: Shouldn't this guy be studying the playbook, or practicing or something?
            One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
            John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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            • #36
              I'd like to see him get back to the success he had in 2008. Would make for a strong left side down the road with Bulaga.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Brohm
                I'd like to see him get back to the success he had in 2008. Would make for a strong left side down the road with Bulaga.
                What was the Packers record in 2008. Expecting Newhouse to be another Sitton.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Tarlam!
                  Originally posted by rbaloha
                  The next time DC loses the job its aloha.
                  Mayybe what I read about the guy is incorrect. What I read about his attitude isn't what i want to be reading.

                  I admire the way Nick Collins did it.
                  Contract squabbles happen all the time. I like the way Collins did it better too, but that has little to do with their abilities on a football field.

                  Packer People is a tad overrated. I don't want a guy who's running into trouble with the law or causing problems in the locker room. But I'm not going to cut a serviceable starting lineman simply because he doesn't agree with his contract. He may be full of himself but as long as he gets it done on the field and doesn't cause any problems in the locker room I could care less how full of himself he is. Winning football games takes priority over winning popularity contests.

                  As I've stated earlier in the thread, I think it's imperative that he win the starting LG job. Because if he doesn't, that means our backup center is the starting left guard. That's not what I want to see. I want to see our starters start and our backups back up. Not musical chairs every time someone gets injured. We finally have the players on our roster now that we can actually enjoy that kind of stability, but Colledge starting at LG is the key to that.
                  Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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                  • #39
                    Good post pb, I agree the Pack has too much invested in Colledge to just let him go, contract squabbles happen every year. I am trying to figure out the depth chart though, and I'm thinking the starters might be Clifton/Colledge/Spitz/Sitton/Taucher and the backups might be Bulaga/Lang/Wells/Barbre/Newhouse, makes sense to me. I'm thinking if the players could just practice at one position they might have a better chance to excel than if they're having to switch positions all the time. Giacomini, Daniels, & EDS will probably be cut.
                    Thanks Ted!

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                    • #40
                      The center position is crowded. The team seems to really like Erectile Dysfunction-Smith, and Spitz's best spot is supposed to be center as well. Last year the talk was of trading Wells, but good thing they didn't. But what about this year?
                      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                      KYPack

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Fritz
                        The center position is crowded. The team seems to really like Erectile Dysfunction-Smith, and Spitz's best spot is supposed to be center as well. Last year the talk was of trading Wells, but good thing they didn't. But what about this year?
                        You have to go through camp and preseason first. If Wells doesn't win the starting job you trade him or cut him. No sense holding onto a roster spot for a guy that can only play that one position and couldn't win the starting job at that position.

                        If Wells does win that starting job, you need to have someone who can back him up. And you don't want his backup to be starting at another OL position, because you don't want one injury to affect multiple positions like we've been seeing for a couple years now. Which is why I'm hoping that not only Wells win the starting job at center, but that Colledge win the starting job at guard. I want Spitz to be my backup interior lineman, not a starter.
                        Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by rbaloha
                          Lets see if DC shows up to mini camps. Hopefully he holds out forcing a trade.
                          Can we trade with the CFL?

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by packrulz
                            I agree the Pack has too much invested in Colledge to just let him go,
                            Colledge is what is commonly known as a "sunk cost".

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Gunakor
                              If Wells doesn't win the starting job you trade him or cut him. No sense holding onto a roster spot for a guy that can only play that one position and couldn't win the starting job at that position.
                              This was the stance that was assumed by many last offseason to occur. It didn't. If Spitz beats out Wells, and Wells still looks like a good option, there is a good chance they would continue to keep him as a primary backup center, as they did last year. Granted EDS has another year and probably more flexibility, so that's certainly not a slam dunk, but neither is Wells getting cut if he's not the starter going into the season.

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                              • #45
                                Like Bigby, I'd love to have Colledge on the team as a serviceable back-up, assuming he could accept that. He may be the best LG we have still, as it looks like Bulaga will (and should IMO) stay at Tackle. But I remain hopeful that someone will beat him out in camp. If not, so be it, but I don't think he is deserving of any kind of long-term deal that would tie up significant dollars at that spot for a long time.

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