Thompson's Boners

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I was thinking this was a picture thread.

[Tony Oday]

AR.

I mean he hasnt even won a Superbowl...loser

[cheesner]

If draft position and magnitude of bust-ation have equal weight in the boner equation, Brohm has to take the cake. Brohm's talent was simply mis evaluated. He just plain stinks.

The difficulty in evaluating QBs is what is between their ears. jamarcus Russell was one of the most physically talented QBs to ever come out of college. Unfortunately, once he had $40m in the bank, he quit working. He slacked in practice, partied in the off-season, and didn't bother with silliness like film study. But he was smart enough to say the right things prior to the draft. What was Brohm's issue? I am not sure, but I know he had a pretty effective skill set in college.

[Lurker64]

From what I've seen out of him, Brohm's problem was that he played like a deer in the headlights in the NFL. A lack of confidence and a general inability to read defenses or make quick decisions.

Has the physical tools, but he hasn't looked like he actually wanted to play football since his Jr. year at Louisville.

[red]

hawk hasn't been a superstar, but drafting davis would not have helped favre out that last year

davis didn't start to flash until last year, and i'm much happier with finley

ngata like lurker said would have been the only other home run option. i loved him before the draft but he was suppose to go in the middle of the first round, not the very top

the fact of the matter is that that whole draft ended up sucking pretty bad, it for sure wasn't the awesome draft we all expected it to be

to me harrell with always be teds worst move. i know people like to say his injuries now are not related to his injuries in college, i say BS. none of his injuries in college and high school were related either. it seemed pretty clear the guy was prone to some serious injuries. not only that but harrell was a major reach where we took him, yeas there is talk that one other team wanted to take him in the first round, but big whoop. a guy with that kind of injury history should not have been taken before the 2nd or 3rd round. it was a massive gamble that failed. thats all on ted

next would be b-jack. when you take a RB in the first two rounds you expect them to be pretty damn good. jackson is a slightly better then average 3rd down back, not much more. this was also a questionable pick at the time because of the lack of playing time and numbers he put up in college. another big gamble that didn't work out

but for me the worst move was trading down out of the 1st passing up brandon flowers and selecting jordy nelson who is now our 4th wr. not that jordy doesn't have talent or he's a bust. it just seems a waste spending a what was a first round pick on your #4 wr, when you could have had a starting caliber CB which seems like something we could use these days

[Guiness]

Jordy instead of Flowers is obscure, because Jordy is a contributing member of the team, but you make a really good point. There are two more parts to that equation though - who did we get with the extra pick we picked up, and how useful would Jordy be if DD's play had dropped off like it was supposed to?

Speaking of a deer in the headlights, I think that's what happened with TT when Brohm was available - he was shocked, didn't know what to do, and grabbed a guy who might well have gone top 10 if he'd come out a year earlier.

[Lurker64]

I'm not sure Ted would have picked Flowers at all without trading down. One of Ted's little idiosyncrasies is that he absolutely will not draft small corners and Flowers is 5-9 (no DB on our roster is smaller than 5-11, which appears to be Ted's cutoff).

If he did have his eye on a CB that year DRC (6-2, but went #16), Aquib Talib (6-1, went #20), and Antoine Cason (6-0, went #27) were probably at the top of Ted's list while smaller guys like Leodis McKelvin, Mike Jenkins, and Flowers were much lower.

You can't give Ted crap for not picking up any of the guys who went before he picked, and the "no small corners" thing has been well known since he worked in Seattle). I'm pretty sure he picked that up from Wolf, who never went after corners smaller than 5-10, Thompson's cutoff appears to be 5-11. I suspect he may have bumped it up an inch subconsciously just so he can say "I wouldn't have drafted Terrell Buckley or Ahmad Carroll" (both 5-10).

Tracy Porter over Jordy would have been a reasonable move and probably acceptable by Ted's rules. The Pat Lee pick I was okay with, since he had a shot at being a nice player. Jordy wasn't an amazing pick, but it wasn't a bad one either. The only pick that really grinds my gears in that round was Brohm.

[vince]

All picks can be justified with the logic that went into the pick at the time it was made. The player's production - or lack thereof - is what makes them a boner pick or not, regardless of the soundness of the logic at the time IMO.

Ted's boners in the draft were:
- Harrell
- Brohm
- Lee
- Rouse
- Hodge
- Barbre (to the extent that he was expected to be a significant contributor in '09)

Ted's boners outside the draft were:
- Not re-signing Wahle and/or not getting adequate replacement.
- The guy he signed to play safety right away whose name I can't remember.
- Cutting Ryan and signing Frost

He has more absolute home runs than boners and the rest were at least solid moves, including Hawk IMO. It's hard for me to say any fourth round pick or lower that doesn't pan out is a boner.

[pbmax]

Cutting Ryan before the regular season has to be at the top of the list. Especially after the improvement he made with the private kicking coach while the Packers would not let him attend their workouts.

[retailguy]

All picks can be justified with the logic that went into the pick at the time it was made. The player's production - or lack thereof - is what makes them a boner pick or not, regardless of the soundness of the logic at the time IMO.

Ted's boners in the draft were:
- Harrell
- Brohm
- Lee
- Rouse
- Hodge
- Barbre (to the extent that he was expected to be a significant contributor in '09)

Ted's boners outside the draft were:
- Not re-signing Wahle and/or not getting adequate replacement.
- The guy he signed to play safety right away whose name I can't remember.
- Cutting Ryan and signing Frost

He has more absolute home runs than boners and the rest were at least solid moves, including Hawk IMO. It's hard for me to say any fourth round pick or lower that doesn't pan out is a boner.

I believe that was Marquand Manuel.

[pbmax]

I understand that everyone hoped for more with Hawk, but given the way even top 10 picks perform (half simply can't start for a decent team), its tough to be upset about a good player who starts, but doesn't stay on the field for nickel because the team has a specialist for that down and distance.

[3irty1]

Passing on Brandon Flowers? Please. At that point the team was running the Bob Sanders scheme and Flowers would make no sense. Pat Lee was a perfect fit who just never seemed to develop.

Cutting Ryan and signing Frost has to top the list of bonehead moves.

[Smidgeon]

Of course I would rather have Ngata but from what I understand it was between drating Hawk and Davis, we went with Hawk. Also we could have still taken Finley, TT is known to take BPA. I do agree if we would have taken Ngata we wouldn't have taken Harrell but that whole 2007 draft sucked as a whole so its not like we would have really gotten someone special. Speaking of that 2007 I still think if the Jets don't trade up to get Revis he would be wearing green and gold.

That's what I heard back then too. That GB had been targeting three players, one that was Revis, one that was Harrell, and one that was I don't know who. And that the Broncos were also targeting three: Revis, Harrell, and whomever they drafted when they traded up to grab whomever they drafted.

I remember that because despite many people bemoaning that GB took Harrell, the Broncos coveted him too at the same spot.

[Smidgeon]

Cutting Ryan before the regular season has to be at the top of the list. Especially after the improvement he made with the private kicking coach while the Packers would not let him attend their workouts.

And that's what got Stock retired.

[Fritz]

I think Brandon Jackson was a second round pick, right? I'd have to say he's not a huge mistake, but he's not quite what you'd hope for in a second round running back.

I still don't agree with Harrell. If you don't like him due to lack of production, then you don't like Terrance Murphy, either.