Packers Land RB AVG 4.8 Yards Per Carry

[HarveyWallbangers]

Kuhn reminds me of Mike Alstott. He's a beast to bring down, and perfect for short yardage situations. 10 carries a game for Kuhn would be perfect.

He actually reminds me a bit of John Riggins, but I'm dating myself. He has deceptive speed and a little shake to him. I said it in the preseason, but I'll repeat it. If you didn't know Kuhn is a converted FB and Toby Gerhart was a second round pick, you'd say Kuhn looks a lot better than Gerhart. That might not be saying much, but I don't think he's too bad. That being said, I'm definitely up for getting a better RB in here--but mainly because Jackson has disappointed.

[Scott Campbell]

He reminds me a little of Christian Okoye. But not quite as big. I'd like to see if we can establish some sort of a power running game, but I'm not sure we've got an OL that can lay the wood.

In my mind, anybody averaging 4.8 YPC has earned more touches. At least until they prove they can't get it done.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Kuhn reminds me of Mike Alstott. He's a beast to bring down, and perfect for short yardage situations. 10 carries a game for Kuhn would be perfect.

He actually reminds me a bit of John Riggins, but I'm dating myself. He has deceptive speed and a little shake to him. I said it in the preseason, but I'll repeat it. If you didn't know Kuhn is a converted FB and Toby Gerhart was a second round pick, you'd say Kuhn looks a lot better than Gerhart. That might not be saying much, but I don't think he's too bad. That being said, I'm definitely up for getting a better RB in here--but mainly because Jackson has disappointed.

But with his style of running I don't think it really works well with the o-line we have blocking for him. We need another guy like RG who sees a hole and hits it fast. If he got 15 carries a game he would not have a 5 yard average trust me on that. The passing game was doing really well and that opened up a couple runs for him. He is not a starting running in this league. I love Kuhn as a FB b/c he is a threat to get a couple carries and I never see him drop a pass. I'm not bashing Kuhn, he is a good player, but he is not a starting running back.

His average would be around 3 yards at the end of the year if he starts the rest of the season. I hope we make a trade for a running back or hopefully we get lucky and Starks is a player (that would be really lucky).

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

but I'm not sure we've got an OL that can lay the wood.

Thats why I don't like him starting, I just don't see it being successful over the course of the season. RG really was perfect for this offense. I didn't realize it at the time, but that was a HUGE loss for this team.

[Scott Campbell]

but I'm not sure we've got an OL that can lay the wood.

Thats why I don't like him starting, I just don't see it being successful over the course of the season. RG really was perfect for this offense. I didn't realize it at the time, but that was a HUGE loss for this team.

All you need to see is the 4.8 YPC. It's gaudy. The rest is pure speculation. It might be a fluke, but we won't know until he gets more touches.

[Patler]

I think he's better than some think. Ignore the fact that he's white and played FB until this year, he's looked pretty good running the ball. He's mostly a run up the middle guy, but I'd have no problem giving him 10-15 carries/game. I'm more disappointed in Jackson than this guy. Jackson is good on third downs though.

Agree 100%. Jackson looks so tentative finding a hole (or maybe I should say deciding were to go, because there often is no hole.) Kuhn at least picks a spot and hits it hard.

[Scott Campbell]

Then you start to examine the seemingly bizarre decision to carry just 2 RB's on the final roster, and perhaps the coaching staff thinks a lot more of him that some of us do.

[mraynrand]

The running game mostly sucks because the Packers have two starting tackles who can no longer run block. At all. They know it. They made a calculated decision to start them against Chicago to protect Rodgers, and pass the ball. Jackson is perfectly able to catch the short pass. Kuhn is perfectly able to run the ball here and there to just keep the defense honest. If they want to pound the rock any more than that, then they have to replace Clifton and Tauscher. And maybe get a better RB in there. Maybe replacing Clifton and Tauscher they don't get hurt in pass pro, but you don't test that out at Chicago against Peppers and that line. Maybe they do it this week against Detroit. Maybe they will be forced to when Clifton and Tauscher can't suit up.

[Scott Campbell]

Big name RB's vs. the Bears this year:

Marion Barber 11 carries 31 yards 2.8 YPC
Felix Jones 7 carries 7 yards 1.0 YPC
Jahvid Best 14 carries 20 yards 1.4 YPC

John Kuhn 6 carries 31 yards 5.2 YPC

[HarveyWallbangers]

But with his style of running I don't think it really works well with the o-line we have blocking for him. We need another guy like RG who sees a hole and hits it fast. If he got 15 carries a game he would not have a 5 yard average trust me on that.

Well, very few average 5 yards/carry. He might be able to average something around 4.2--which is about Ryan Grant was good for. Kuhn actually has deceptive speed and shake. He's not Korey Hall. Cleveland has a similar guy, Peyton Hillis, that is doing well for them.

[Freak Out]

I got no problem running him 10-15 times a game....we don't have a choice really considering how Jackson has looked...plus he has shown he can get some tough yards.

[Freak Out]

I am very curious how Nance is progressing with the team though....

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

But with his style of running I don't think it really works well with the o-line we have blocking for him. We need another guy like RG who sees a hole and hits it fast. If he got 15 carries a game he would not have a 5 yard average trust me on that.

Well, very few average 5 yards/carry. He might be able to average something around 4.2--which is about Ryan Grant was good for. Kuhn actually has deceptive speed and shake. He's not Korey Hall. Cleveland has a similar guy, Peyton Hillis, that is doing well for them.

Maybe you are right, I hope you are. But week 6 is getting close and now is the time to decide what to do with the running game. I would love nothing more than to be wrong, but I look at the line and I look at Kuhn and I don't see it working. I would prefer a speed guy who hits the hole hard. We will see how the next couple weeks play out I guess.

[Pugger]

I think he's better than some think. Ignore the fact that he's white and played FB until this year, he's looked pretty good running the ball. He's mostly a run up the middle guy, but I'd have no problem giving him 10-15 carries/game. I'm more disappointed in Jackson than this guy. Jackson is good on third downs though.

He played HB in college.

[Joemailman]

My guess is that Nance will start getting more carries once the coaching staff is satisfied that he knows his blitz pickups. Hopefully he's a quick study.