Packers Land RB AVG 4.8 Yards Per Carry

[HarveyWallbangers]

If Nance shows anything, I could see Kuhn and Nance each getting 8-10 carries/game with Jackson keeping the third down role.

[Patler]

My guess is that Nance will start getting more carries once the coaching staff is satisfied that he knows his blitz pickups. Hopefully he's a quick study.

A quick study would have played more last week, not been inactive on Monday, his 2nd week. He has already proven not to be a quick study, in my opinion.

He might just be keeping a roster spot warm for Starks. For the next three weeks he might just be a guy available in case another back is lost.

[HarveyWallbangers]

My guess is that Nance will start getting more carries once the coaching staff is satisfied that he knows his blitz pickups. Hopefully he's a quick study.

A quick study would have played more last week, not been inactive on Monday, his 2nd week. He has already proven not to be a quick study, in my opinion.

He might just be keeping a roster spot warm for Starks. For the next three weeks he might just be a guy available in case another back is lost.

Exactly what I was thinking. Sounds like Starks is close to 100%, if not already.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Nance, then Starks, for 10 carries/game.
Kuhn for 5-10 carries/game.
Jackson as third down back + occasional goal line and 1st and 2nd down carries.

[SkinBasket]

You have to be kidding... Has the guy even broken a 10 yard run yet? Short yardage back I'm fine with. Everyday back not so much.

4.8 yards isn't exactly "short." I would rather have a guy who runs for close to his average each time and keeps a drive alive than a guy who runs 10 times for 4 yards and kills two or three drives before breaking a 50 yarder then jumps up and flexes and smiles for the cameras. But that's just me.

[Patler]

Nance, then Starks, for 10 carries/game.
Kuhn for 5-10 carries/game.
Jackson as third down back + occasional goal line and 1st and 2nd down carries.

That could very well be how the season will play out in the rushing department. Starks could factor into the passing game, too. Reportedly he is a very good with routes and catching the ball.

[mraynrand]

"Starks, I just want to say Good luck, we're all counting on you."

[Smidgeon]

Kuhn reminds me of Mike Alstott. He's a beast to bring down, and perfect for short yardage situations. 10 carries a game for Kuhn would be perfect.

He actually reminds me a bit of John Riggins, but I'm dating myself. He has deceptive speed and a little shake to him. I said it in the preseason, but I'll repeat it. If you didn't know Kuhn is a converted FB and Toby Gerhart was a second round pick, you'd say Kuhn looks a lot better than Gerhart. That might not be saying much, but I don't think he's too bad. That being said, I'm definitely up for getting a better RB in here--but mainly because Jackson has disappointed.

Well, no one else would. Zing!

(Sorry, couldn't resist. I've been waiting to use that line for years.)

[OS PA]

He reminds me a little of Christian Okoye. But not quite as big. I'd like to see if we can establish some sort of a power running game, but I'm not sure we've got an OL that can lay the wood.

In my mind, anybody averaging 4.8 YPC has earned more touches. At least until they prove they can't get it done.

How much would our line suffer if we pulled Clifton and Tauscher in lieu of Bulaga and Lang. At least for the next couple of weeks. Rest our old tackles, and get our young guys some experience. We may give up another sack or two, and we may miss some blocking assignments, but it seems to me that our running game would be a little better, and we wouldn't be hurt as much by power-players like Peppers/Vanden-Bosch/Allen. I am not saying we should do this as a last ditch effort or because Clifton and Tauscher are entirely washed up, but it would be interesting to see if a younger line can gel. Cliffy and Tausch would also be healthier later in the season or in case we suffered an injury.

[Joemailman]

My guess is that Nance will start getting more carries once the coaching staff is satisfied that he knows his blitz pickups. Hopefully he's a quick study.

A quick study would have played more last week, not been inactive on Monday, his 2nd week. He has already proven not to be a quick study, in my opinion.

He might just be keeping a roster spot warm for Starks. For the next three weeks he might just be a guy available in case another back is lost.

Exactly what I was thinking. Sounds like Starks is close to 100%, if not already.

Some wonder how soon Starks can be ready for full contact though. He hasn't been in pads in almost 2 years. I don't know the answer. Pretty unusual situation.

[Brandon494]

Big name RB's vs. the Bears this year:

Marion Barber 11 carries 31 yards 2.8 YPC
Felix Jones 7 carries 7 yards 1.0 YPC
Jahvid Best 14 carries 20 yards 1.4 YPC

John Kuhn 6 carries 31 yards 5.2 YPC

Believe it or not we actually have a better O-line then the Cowboys and Lions.

[Brandon494]

But with his style of running I don't think it really works well with the o-line we have blocking for him. We need another guy like RG who sees a hole and hits it fast. If he got 15 carries a game he would not have a 5 yard average trust me on that.

Well, very few average 5 yards/carry. He might be able to average something around 4.2--which is about Ryan Grant was good for. Kuhn actually has deceptive speed and shake. He's not Korey Hall. Cleveland has a similar guy, Peyton Hillis, that is doing well for them.

Peyton Hillis I believe can be a success running back in this league but Kuhn Im not sure of.

[Brandon494]

You have to be kidding... Has the guy even broken a 10 yard run yet? Short yardage back I'm fine with. Everyday back not so much.

4.8 yards isn't exactly "short." I would rather have a guy who runs for close to his average each time and keeps a drive alive than a guy who runs 10 times for 4 yards and kills two or three drives before breaking a 50 yarder then jumps up and flexes and smiles for the cameras. But that's just me.

I'm sure if Kuhn EVER broke a 50 yard run he would jump up and flex.

Anyway he has only rushed the ball 17 times, so that 4.8 yards per carry is nothing to me. Shit even Deshawn Wynn has a career average of 5.2 ypc. The guy runs with effort, I give him that but if Kuhn is still our starter come playoff time I will be pretty upset with TT. For now we have no one better so go ahead and give him carries with Quinn Johnson blocking.

[denverYooper]

Kuhn's carries:

Philly: 12, 3, 3
Buf: 2, 4, 2, 7, 3, 0, 10, 3
Chi: 4, -1, 1, 7, 2, 18

Mean: 4.8
Median: 3
Mode: 3

He's been good for 1 >=10 run per game in limited action, has had only 1 negative run and Median/Mode suggest he's generally good for 3 yards per.
So, yeah, he just smashes it forward and occasionally breaks a longer run.

[Sparkey]

My guess is that Nance will start getting more carries once the coaching staff is satisfied that he knows his blitz pickups. Hopefully he's a quick study.

A quick study would have played more last week, not been inactive on Monday, his 2nd week. He has already proven not to be a quick study, in my opinion.

He might just be keeping a roster spot warm for Starks. For the next three weeks he might just be a guy available in case another back is lost.

From my understanding, the offense Nance learned in Atlanta is almost completely opposite of Green Bay. Numbers and Letters terminology is completely reversed. I think Nance was inactive because Green Bay had no intention of doing anything more than a token effort at running.

You watch Clifton and Tauscher run blocking and it is apparent that as long as they are the tackles, the run game will be average to below average. Neither player has the quickness to cutoff the backside pursuit anymore.

The running game wont improve until Bulaga and Lang are manning the tackle spots for Green Bay.