Packers Land RB AVG 4.8 Yards Per Carry

[get louder at lambeau]

You guys were both so excited about him, it's hard to separate one jet of spooge from another.

That quote calls for a gay pride rainbow wave right there.

[packerbacker1234]

It was funny how people were all excited for starks when grant was healthy, but once he got hurt worry seeped in relying on a rookie.

All I know is our rushing attack and RB situation has clearly shown how valuable Grant was. Sometimes you just don't realize what you have until it's gone. Here's hoping grant makes a fully recovery (which he should) and be good to go next season.

As for this year... we would be fine if we weren't an outdoor team. We'll see what we do.

[Brandon494]

I agree which is why I think TT needs to bring in another RB. I mean RB is prob the easiest position to fill yet he done nothing. I'm a TT supporter but sometimes the guy gets on my nerves.

One of the Packer beat writers had an article last week. He contacted personnel guys for several teams, and there seemed to be a feeling that Nance was among the best available. One personnel guy said Nance was at the top of their "emergency list" for running backs. He said TT got the right guy, or something to that effect.

I'm not sure what else you expect.

No offense but I could care less what some nameless personnel guys think. Hes an undrafted rookie who barely averaged 4 yards per carry in the Pac-10. What I expect is trade some draft picks and go get a running back. Doesnt have to be a flashy back. Broncos went out and got Laurence Maroney for a 4th round pick and also picked up a 6th rounder in the deal.

If a team like the Broncos who don't plan to even make the playoffs can go out and trade for a RB when their starter is only out for 4-5 weeks why can't the Packers? We are a Super Bowl pick this season and lost our starting RB for the season and currently only have one RB active. I know a lot of you guys like Kuhn because hes a high effort guy but Jackson and Kuhn make up the worst rushing tandem in the league.

I had high hopes for Starks but only as a 3rd down back. He might still show something but he hasnt had full contact in also 2 years and is also injury prone. All Im saying is even if you have to overpay alittle go out and find us a running back. We might be ok right now but come around november/december we are going to need a running game.

[sharpe1027]

It was funny how people were all excited for starks when grant was healthy, but once he got hurt worry seeped in relying on a rookie.

All I know is our rushing attack and RB situation has clearly shown how valuable Grant was. Sometimes you just don't realize what you have until it's gone. Here's hoping grant makes a fully recovery (which he should) and be good to go next season.

As for this year... we would be fine if we weren't an outdoor team. We'll see what we do.

I agree that the loss of Grant is a very big deal. I don't think there's any thing inconsistent about being excited about the prospect of the 3rd string rookie back and at the same time not thinking that same 3rd stringer is ready for a starting role.

[Joemailman]

Does anybody consider the possibility that Nance could turn out to be as good as Grant, but it might take a little while? Both were undrafted. Both joined the Packers without the benefit of being through training camp with the Packers. It took Grant almost half a season before the Packers felt he was ready to start. It could be the same situation for Nance.

[Smidgeon]

Does anybody consider the possibility that Nance could turn out to be as good as Grant, but it might take a little while? Both were undrafted. Both joined the Packers without the benefit of being through training camp with the Packers. It took Grant almost half a season before the Packers felt he was ready to start. It could be the same situation for Nance.

That's too much Kool-aid for the mass crisis we're in after such a derailing loss that threw the entire season out the window.

[Jimx29]

cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooon

[Patler]

No offense but I could care less what some nameless personnel guys think. Hes an undrafted rookie who barely averaged 4 yards per carry in the Pac-10. What I expect is trade some draft picks and go get a running back. Doesnt have to be a flashy back. Broncos went out and got Laurence Maroney for a 4th round pick and also picked up a 6th rounder in the deal.

If a team like the Broncos who don't plan to even make the playoffs can go out and trade for a RB when their starter is only out for 4-5 weeks why can't the Packers? We are a Super Bowl pick this season and lost our starting RB for the season and currently only have one RB active. I know a lot of you guys like Kuhn because hes a high effort guy but Jackson and Kuhn make up the worst rushing tandem in the league.

I had high hopes for Starks but only as a 3rd down back. He might still show something but he hasnt had full contact in also 2 years and is also injury prone. All Im saying is even if you have to overpay alittle go out and find us a running back. We might be ok right now but come around november/december we are going to need a running game.

You keep bringing up the undrafted status of players, as if that necessarily means they can't possibly be as good or better than a drafted player.

Just looking at RBs, Ryan Grant was undrafted, as was Willie Parker and Priest Holmes. I'll take a new version of Grant, Parker or Holmes. Perhaps Nance really is a better option than Maroney, the has-beens that are available, and the backs other teams might be willing to trade.

What makes Starks "injury prone"? Just because he missed his Senior year? He played 36 games the three years before that. It seems like any player injured as a Senior is "injury prone" but not if they miss their sophmore or Junior years. Maybe he will be, but we don't know that yet for sure.

[swede]

No offense but I could care less what some nameless personnel guys think. Hes an undrafted rookie who barely averaged 4 yards per carry in the Pac-10. What I expect is trade some draft picks and go get a running back. Doesnt have to be a flashy back. Broncos went out and got Laurence Maroney for a 4th round pick and also picked up a 6th rounder in the deal.

If a team like the Broncos who don't plan to even make the playoffs can go out and trade for a RB when their starter is only out for 4-5 weeks why can't the Packers? We are a Super Bowl pick this season and lost our starting RB for the season and currently only have one RB active. I know a lot of you guys like Kuhn because hes a high effort guy but Jackson and Kuhn make up the worst rushing tandem in the league.

I had high hopes for Starks but only as a 3rd down back. He might still show something but he hasnt had full contact in also 2 years and is also injury prone. All Im saying is even if you have to overpay alittle go out and find us a running back. We might be ok right now but come around november/december we are going to need a running game.

You keep bringing up the undrafted status of players, as if that necessarily means they can't possibly be as good or better than a drafted player.

Just looking at RBs, Ryan Grant was undrafted, as was Willie Parker and Priest Holmes. I'll take a new version of Grant, Parker or Holmes. Perhaps Nance really is a better option than Maroney, the has-beens that are available, and the backs other teams might be willing to trade.

What makes Starks "injury prone"? Just because he missed his Senior year? He played 36 games the three years before that. It seems like any player injured as a Senior is "injury prone" but not if they miss their sophmore or Junior years. Maybe he will be, but we don't know that yet for sure.

I agree with your point, but shoulder injuries are a different animal. Once injured, that joint tends to be susceptible to recurring problems. The good thing about Stark's hammy injury is that it may have given him an extra couple of months to strengthen that post-surgical shoulder before enduring NFL collisions.

[Scott Campbell]

Kuhn looked pretty good again today, shoving it down the throat of a Lion defense stacked against the run. It' s been a long time since the Packers ran 6 and a half minutes off the clock to close out a game.

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Kuhn looked pretty good again today, shoving it down the throat of a Lion defense stacked against the run. It' s been a long time since the Packers ran 6 and a half minutes off the clock to close out a game.

he just drops his head and runs as hard as he can at the hole. no screwing around, no dancing. just a bruising running back.

i would like to see a different main running back, then use kuhn as the thunder/3rd down back

[denverYooper]

Kuhn looked pretty good again today, shoving it down the throat of a Lion defense stacked against the run. It' s been a long time since the Packers ran 6 and a half minutes off the clock to close out a game.

Huge series by Kuhn when they needed it most. Player of the game.

[get louder at lambeau]

Kuhn looked pretty good again today, shoving it down the throat of a Lion defense stacked against the run. It' s been a long time since the Packers ran 6 and a half minutes off the clock to close out a game.

Huge series by Kuhn when they needed it most. Player of the game.

+1

Meanwhile Marshawn Lynch had 4 carries for 8 yards (2.0 ypc) and a fumble.

Blame his OL? Maybe not, since Fred Jackson averaged 7.0, Spiller averaged 5.5, and even QB Fitzpatrick had success on the ground, averaging 10.1.

[denverYooper]

Kuhn had 7 of his 9 carries on that last drive:

1st 3Q: 4, 1
last drive: 7,5,6,5,2,1,8

[denverYooper]

Bjack: 11,6,0,4,-1,14,2,0,-3

he had a 12 yard run on the offsetting Finley/KVB penalties.