Moss to the Vikings?

[MadtownPacker]

How does that thread get deleted?

It's a mystery.


But man, it sure was fun while it lasted. That's the best time I've had in here in the last 2 years.

You know Woody blew up Joe's inbox or something. Told him he'd get sued by Deanna and scared him into deleting it.

Fuck SC, Woody and Mission if they wanna sink the ship cuz all signs point the way Im sad to say. Im mean WTF is it really that entertaining? The thread in the GC has this shit all day, Why not hit that spot? This thread is legit cuz that skinny MFer will be a concern to the Pack DBs. Dont get it tossed like a little bitch.

As for moss, he is a degenerate and had no place amongst the likely snooty whiteys in Boston. Where a Macys magazine coverboy wannabe like brady gets loved to death moss is treated like a black guy you saw last night on America's Most Wanted. A terrible example especially when compared with the token hard working White WR aka Great White Hope Wes Welker.

Im not saying moss' beliefs are true if this is what they where, I just believe he didn't feel like he fit in for whatever reason. My scenario is possibly one of them.

[woodbuck27]

Scott. Your offering to run the GOSSIP COLUMN here at Packerrats arn't you!?

Gossip?


Really???????


http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/b...goodell-100810

I'm ignoring you Scott. Take a REST please.

GO PACK GO!

[Scott Campbell]

This has been an ugly ...UGLY day for me @ Packerrats in terms of the possible Brett Favre scandal having a foundation of TRUTH.

This is the best portion of a post I've seen you make on this. Obviously you and I feel very different about this news. But then there is issue of the news itself. And that stands alone, apart from how you and I feel about it. And it deserves to be here, as it's relevant to the Packer season.

[Scott Campbell]

Im mean WTF is it really that entertaining?

The league is investigating it. People are calling for his suspension if the allegations are legit. And the Vikings who are on are schedule twice yet the season look a lot different with T-Jack behind center than Bert.

I'm sorry if real news makes you uncomfortable. But it's relevant to the Packers.

[woodbuck27]

How does that thread get deleted?

It's a mystery.


But man, it sure was fun while it lasted. That's the best time I've had in here in the last 2 years.

You know Woody blew up Joe's inbox or something. Told him he'd get sued by Deanna and scared him into deleting it.

Fuck SC, Woody and Mission if they wanna sink the ship cuz all signs point the way Im sad to say. Im mean WTF is it really that entertaining? The thread in the GC has this shit all day, Why not hit that spot? This thread is legit cuz that skinny MFer will be a concern to the Pack DBs. Dont get it tossed like a little bitch.

As for moss, he is a degenerate and had no place amongst the likely snooty whiteys in Boston. Where a Macys magazine coverboy wannabe like brady gets loved to death moss is treated like a black guy you saw last night on America's Most Wanted. A terrible example especially when compared with the token hard working White WR aka Great White Hope Wes Welker.

Im not saying moss' beliefs are true if this is what they where, I just believe he didn't feel like he fit in for whatever reason. My scenario is possibly one of them.

Hi Mad.

With all respect for you Mad. Don't imagine I'm in the same place as SC. You know the history and he'll never change. I"m ignoring his ways Mad. That puts me in a ... happy place man.

Good to see you post here Mad and I hope the LIFE is treating you 'just' great.

GO PACK GO !

[Scott Campbell]

I"m ignoring his ways Mad. That puts me in a ... happy place man.

So now you're going to act like I started this? After you tried to taunt me in this very thread about who laughs last?

Come on Woody.

[mraynrand]

If you boys can't play nice, I'm going to have to bring out my strongly-worded, safe-for-prime-time reprimand. Don't make me do it!

[Scott Campbell]

Woody's rah rah Randy bit would be getting pretty old if it hadn't been for Bert coming through.

[Patler]

i don't see how this is anything but an outstanding move by minnesota. they were already all in, we all knew that. now they just sent a 4th round pick(no big deal imo) for one of, if not THE best wr in the nfl.

Not that it matters a lot, but I think it is a 3rd, not a 4th round pick.

Moss is still a good receiver and should fill a need for the Vikings; but I don't consider him the best by any means.

Is Childress coach enough to deal with Moss? Will the "Randy Ratio" return? Has Moss matured? This could be a very good thing for the Vikings, but it also might not be all roses.

Moss wasn't the problem you may think he was Patler. For your book of knowledge there's this:

Patriots GM and HC Bill Belichick speaks on the Randy Moss trade

There was never any incident or discipline problem with Randy. Bilichick and Pats players defend Moss's attitude and effort.

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/rap_sheet/index.php/2010/10/07/patriots-coach-bill-belichick-speaks-on-the-moss-trade-there-was-never-any-incident-or-discipline-problem-with-randy/

and this:

In Defense Of Randy Moss

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/football/patriots/view.bg?articleid=1287488&srvc=blog

GO PACKERS!

Did I say he was a problem in NE? Nope, I didn't. Why are you reading that into it? You missed the point completely, Woody.

I simply asked a few questions:

"Is Childress coach enough to deal with Moss?" (Obviously, Bellicheck was.)
"Will the "Randy Ratio" return?" They had it when he last played in MN.
"Has Moss matured?" (If he has, things will be different)

I then concluded that, based on the answers to those questions, "This could be a very good thing for the Vikings, but it also might not be all roses."

When we last saw Moss in MN, he complained about not getting the ball enough (not necessarily unusual for WRs). At one time this resulted in the talk of a "Randy Ratio", which I thought was a poor approach by the coaches. Moss admitted to loafing through plays he would not be involved in. He walked off the field before a game was done. He had other acts of immaturity.

The loafing got worse in Oakland, according to reports.

Moss has been different in NE, until his little incident at the start of the season.
Was this due to Bellechik or did Moss mature?
Will Moss be motivated, or will he complain about a new contract?

I will say it again:

This could be a very good thing for the Vikings, but it also might not be all roses. I don't think anything is guaranteed with Moss. As one Viking Player put it:

As Silver quoted one unnamed Viking saying, "I think it's all or nothing. It's either the missing piece and we go all the way, or Moss takes on Chilly and this thing blows up by the end of October. There's no C grade on this one. It'll either be an A or an F."

[pbmax]

i don't see how this is anything but an outstanding move by minnesota. they were already all in, we all knew that. now they just sent a 4th round pick(no big deal imo) for one of, if not THE best wr in the nfl.

Not that it matters a lot, but I think it is a 3rd, not a 4th round pick.

Moss is still a good receiver and should fill a need for the Vikings; but I don't consider him the best by any means.

Is Childress coach enough to deal with Moss? Will the "Randy Ratio" return? Has Moss matured? This could be a very good thing for the Vikings, but it also might not be all roses.

Moss wasn't the problem you may think he was Patler. For your book of knowledge there's this:

Patriots GM and HC Bill Belichick speaks on the Randy Moss trade

There was never any incident or discipline problem with Randy. Bilichick and Pats players defend Moss's attitude and effort.

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/rap_sheet/index.php/2010/10/07/patriots-coach-bill-belichick-speaks-on-the-moss-trade-there-was-never-any-incident-or-discipline-problem-with-randy/

and this:

In Defense Of Randy Moss

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/football/patriots/view.bg?articleid=1287488&srvc=blog

GO PACKERS!

Considering that NFL head coaches have flat lied to the press for years, I put more stock in the contemporaneous accounts of Moss' behavior than in Belicheck's washing of his sins after a trade. After all, Belicheck has to face him later this year.

Belicheck himself has a cluttered history of lying and failing to follow rules, so his word is not exactly golden.

People in the know, ie people who witnessed the confrontations and Moss himself, have reported the incidents and Moss himself acknowledged having to talk to Belicheck himself about one outburst after the Week 1 game.

If Moss presented no problems of this sort, there would be no reason to trade him.

[MadtownPacker]

BREAKING NEWS!!!

Belicheat was pissed cuz moss borrowed his hoody sweater without asking! Said it didnt smell the same afterward.

[MadtownPacker]

Im mean WTF is it really that entertaining?

The league is investigating it. People are calling for his suspension if the allegations are legit. And the Vikings who are on are schedule twice yet the season look a lot different with T-Jack behind center than Bert.

I'm sorry if real news makes you uncomfortable. But it's relevant to the Packers.

Fuck you fool, you know what I meant so dont try to spin it. Talking about moss is legit, talking about Favre in the favre thread is legit. You and Woody going back and forth like some fucking school girls is just stupid. That is what is not entertaining, it is the same tired BS. Cant you fucking ignore him and Woody if you are being a saint why the fuck are you even responding to SC??? if this was face to face it would be like you both coming inot a room we are all talking in and taking a big crap right there. I dont wanna smell it and I bet several others feel the same.

[Scott Campbell]

Talking about moss is legit, talking about Favre in the favre thread is legit.

Oh my god. Were talking about both of them in the same thread? You'd think they're both on the same team or something.

OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Scott Campbell]

Belicheat was pissed

Bill in the Moss thread? Don't you dare!

[pbmax]

When we last saw Moss in MN, he complained about not getting the ball enough (not necessarily unusual for WRs). At one time this resulted in the talk of a "Randy Ratio", which I thought was a poor approach by the coaches. Moss admitted to loafing through plays he would not be involved in. He walked off the field before a game was done. He had other acts of immaturity.

The loafing got worse in Oakland, according to reports.

Moss has been different in NE, until his little incident at the start of the season.
Was this due to Bellechik or did Moss mature?
Will Moss be motivated, or will he complain about a new contract?

The difference according to reports is that Moss respected Belicheck, but did not hold the assistant coaches in the same regard. As you mention, a lot depends on how Chilldress handles the situation.

But as for maturing, his opponents have said on more than one occasion that he still takes plays off. You could see him taking plays off in the game versus the Dolphins. In fact, it seems that it went so far that when the Patriots went five wide, there was a TE and a RB in the pattern, but no Moss. One opposing player said this helped tip defenses off to the coming play.

He may very well be the difference maker in Minnesota, but it will not be because he changed.