Moss to the Vikings?

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Mystery solved. Check the garbage can.

Oh. Guess I've never requested access to that forum until now. At first I refreshed and it just told me I didn't have access. Didn't realize it was moved.

[Scott Campbell]

I wonder what the weather will be like at kickoff on Sunday?

[woodbuck27]

Of course, I hail from ' the wilds of the Maritimes ' and us fellas get caught up in that sort of behaviour as often as we can ... and can also ... get away with it.

You jack off on your cell phone and send the pictures to young girls? Maybe that's ok in Canada, but I think it's pretty fucking creepy.

Scott when I made that post I had not taken the time to pursue your latest slam or allegation Vs Brett Favre.

The last portion of this post was pure Canadian SARCASM.

Look where you took it and persoalized that (in terms referring to me).

This is what I mean about you and sickness Scott:


"You jack off on your cell phone and send the pictures to young girls? Maybe that's ok in Canada, but I think it's pretty fucking creepy." Scott Campbell

How do you think or imagine that post made me feel ? I couldn't make any connection to the Favre accusations as I had no knowledge then of such Scott.

I thought you were just losing it Scott. Scott! That post to me is creepy. What's wrong with YOU Scott?

Look at my initial response. I play off of you Scott or basically ignore the verascity of your post. I just don't get you and all your anger Scott.

[falco]

Careful, don't work Woody up into another lather or this thread will end up in the GC too.

[mission]

Of course, I hail from ' the wilds of the Maritimes ' and us fellas get caught up in that sort of behaviour as often as we can ... and can also ... get away with it.

You jack off on your cell phone and send the pictures to young girls? Maybe that's ok in Canada, but I think it's pretty fucking creepy.

Scott when I made that post I had not taken the time to pursue your latest slam or allegation Vs Brett Favre.

Sorry Woody, but that's hardly Scott's allegation. And Santa Claus isn't real.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Moss said, "I still have a lot of love for the Minnesota Vikings, man. Just luckily I did get traded here. For what reasons, I still don't know to this day. But I am back."

He doesn't know why he was traded? Really? He throws a fit in NE starts talking publicly about not being loved there, calls out the organization, reportedly has verbal altercations with Brady and the QB coach and also reportedly doesn't get along with the HC and he wonders why he was traded?

Must be nice to live in a world where you don't see any consequences for your actions.

[woodbuck27]

you know this wouldn't even be an issue if TT would have just given up a 4th or whatever it was a few years back to get moss in the first place

now that moves will once again haunt us

Yes I most certainly agree with you red but on merely an emotiomal basis can I agree. The facts RE: No MOss in Green Bay are as published recently in ' the Brandt article'. Randy Moss wanted his best deal. Randy Moss looked after Randy Moss and wanted only a one year deal. TT wanted to sign Moss to at least two years. Moss got his speculative contract from NE. Produce in that year and get his real value. He certainly produced in 2007.

Favre then had a contention with TT over that failure to acquire Randy Moss. We are aware of this from generalized statement (s) from articles published on NFL sites and specifically I read of Favre's criticisms (not specific content) in an article published and available in ** the NFL.Com archives ( search ...Brett Favre and start looking about page 14).

There are over 5000 articles RE: Favre in ** that one archive alone, as I re-call the number. Holy Favre !

The facts ( specifics) of that matter RE: Ted Thompson and Brett Favre and ' any specific words of dispute ( between Favre and Ted Thompson and any other team coach's) over Randy Moss going to ' the Pats ' and not us. Has not to my knowledge been made public.

We can only contend that that issue was ' the tipping point' that may have eventually led to Fvare leaving our team, as it transpired. I will not contend that 'in fact' that issue of us not getting Moss was the means to the end of Favre as a Green Bay Packer. There were more factors that led to Favre leaving. Favre himself is on record as claiming that both sides made errors but it is what it is and it's done.

Favre is on record as saying. In his way of understanding. Both sides have moved on or forward. IMO that is as it should be accepted by any NFL fan.

Sadly that has not been the case. Some fans allow their emotions to interfere with ' the reality ' of Favre in New York as a JET ( 2008 ) and now Minnesota as a Viking (2009-10)

Randy Moss got that next contract in 2008 and then was the time for TT to condider making an offer to Moss's agent. TT could have got Moss to sign an offer sheet for 2008 early as he was ' in fact ' a FA.

So again before the 2008 season. TT had a solid opportunity to make Brett Favre happy (not that, that was one of TT's prime considerations nor should it have been ) unless your the emotional fan looking at it from your emotional fan needs.

TT for whatever personal reason (s), bypassed that opportunity. Again we may speculate that may have annoid Brett Favre. Speculation = moot.

That has been a main contention of mine since that issue of Randy Moss possibly coming to us fr. 'the Raiders' came up. Brett Favre openly campaigned for TT to get Moss into a Packer jersey. That didn't transpire. That didn't transpire IMO because the cost to TT would have been too rich for him. Also we enjoyes an amazing season in 2007 as Favre connected better with his younf troupe of WR's and DD. Brett Favre was lights out good in 2007. Mr. Everyting hahaa and we were 13-3 and just missed getting to the Super Bowl.

That was .... A COLD DAY ! We should not have lost to the NY Giants but we did.

There is ' that fan emotion '.

Favre then had a contention with TT over that failure to acquire Randy Moss. We are only aware of this from a generalized statement (s) from articles published on NFL sites and specifically I read of Favre's criticisms in an article published and available in the NFL.Com archives (search ...Brett Favre )

The facts of that matter RE: Ted Thompson and Brett Favre and ' any specific words of dispute ( between Favre and Ted Thompson and any other team coach's) over Moss going to ' the Pats ' and not us. Has not to my knowledge been made public.

We can only contend that that issue was ' the tipping point' that may have eventually led to Fvare leaving our team, as it transpired. I will not contend that 'in fact' that issue of us not getting Moss was the means to the end of Favre as a Green Bay Packer. There were more factors that led to Favre leaving. Favre himself is on record as claiming that both sides made errors but it is what it is and it's done.

Favre is on record as saying. In his way of understanding. Both sides have moved on or forward. IMO that is as it should be accepted by any NFL fan.

Sadly that has not been the case. Some fans allow their emotions to interfere with ' the reality ' of Favre in New York as a JET ( 2008 ) and now Minnesota as a Viking (2009-10)

I can produce an article (s) that specifically allude to this:

If TT had secured Randy Moss in 2007. Favre would have returned after we came so close to a Super Bowl berth in 2007. I won't necessarily say that would have been the case as without Randy Moss in Green Bay in 2007. That specuation of Brett Favre and Packers in 2008 is moot.

I believe overall RE: Favre and gone! TT had a concern to deal with RE: Aaron Rodgers being ready and ' of course ' anxious to be OUR starting QB. TT had to sign Aaron Rodgers to a new contract as well and it just fir to give him money relative to a NFL starting QB. With Fvare back in 2008 as MM said was the desire of ' the powers to be'. Thus holding back Aaron Rodgers. I felt ( feel) that the best case scenario for ' the then and immediate future' was satisfied in Favre leaving.

It was Aaron Rodgers time. I am on record several times posting that I was glad that Brett Favre got out of Green Bay at the time he did. I made my own observations and felt he had to be frustrated with Ted Thompson but was that a fact? I really can't say for sure. Any such stance onmy part would be pure speculation and that based on the frustrations I felt as a Packer fan and TT's ways.

I'm just a Packer fan.

Favre is Favre and Ted Thompson is all himself. I can't read Ted Thompson.

After yesterday I'm not positive who Brett Favre is either.

I do know he's (Favfre's) sure provided me with some good and bad entertainment since 1992. I'm not always REAL happy with Bret Favre. I handle him and in respect to what I desire as a fan based in tthe fact he's a mere human being. Just lik the rest of us.

Favre since Green Bay:

What Brett Favre did with his career since. I am on record posting that was entirely ' Favre's business '. Brett Favre is a professional athlete and football, his profession. He has proven productive since Green Bay and his resume is solid. Brett Favre is emplyed as a starting QB for the Minnesota Vikings

He has remained for hire. It's to me to this Packer and NFL fan...

' just ' that simple.

GO PACKERS!

[Scott Campbell]

I wonder how long we'll be seeing Moss catch passes from Bert now that there are calls for his suspension from respected members of the national media if the investigation confirms he's a complete sleezeball.

[falco]

[woodbuck27]

How long before Favre and Moss get on the same page? Other than Shiancoe, Favre hasn't been clicking with his offense from last year, and now they bring in a new element. I suspect it will be a few weeks before Moss can make a consistent impact, although just having him in the game and running deep might help them.

This isn't the first time NE let go of a player, and everyone wondered why. Somehow it never seems to hurt them.

It probably would take 2-3 weeks. Moss does have the advantage of being able to go up and get balls so it's possible to chuck it up without having that chemistry.

As for NE, yea what's up with that? They are good at trading some of their better players and not sinking. I think they missed Seymour though.

Hi Rastak.

Congratulations Viking fan. You fella's needed a move like getting Randy Moss. Only time will tell us NFL fans how great or not that move was. By all I'm reading Randy Moss was entirely respected and liked in New England. Some reports said otherwise but they have been contradicted by the people most important ... RE: THE KNOW. ie Teammates of Randy Moss's and NE GM and HC Bill Belichick.

I believe this. It will take a few games but Moss will want to do really well in 2010 to set up another solid contract. He's still an elite WR in the NFL. Favre will get him the ball.

The questions I have Rastak:

a) will your OL protect Brett Favre over the next four game stretch that will possibly be the tide that makes or breaks the Vikings?

You fella's need a split there at least ( sit at 3-4) or your in some real trouble.

b) What are you learning about your OL that is possibly going to improve it's performance?

c) Alot of speculation surrounds the Viking OL weakness and Favre getting knocked out. What might the impact be on the Vikings if Favre gets injured and you go to your backup QB, specifically related to the next few games and acuiring Randy Moss??

GO PACK GO!

[Scott Campbell]

Scott. Your offering to run the GOSSIP COLUMN here at Packerrats arn't you!?

Gossip?


Really???????

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/brett-favre-jenn-sterger-allegations-should-be-resolved-by-nfl-commissioner-roger-goodell-100810

[woodbuck27]

i don't see how this is anything but an outstanding move by minnesota. they were already all in, we all knew that. now they just sent a 4th round pick(no big deal imo) for one of, if not THE best wr in the nfl.

Not that it matters a lot, but I think it is a 3rd, not a 4th round pick.

Moss is still a good receiver and should fill a need for the Vikings; but I don't consider him the best by any means.

Is Childress coach enough to deal with Moss? Will the "Randy Ratio" return? Has Moss matured? This could be a very good thing for the Vikings, but it also might not be all roses.

Moss wasn't the problem you may think he was Patler. For your book of knowledge there's this:

Patriots GM and HC Bill Belichick speaks on the Randy Moss trade

There was never any incident or discipline problem with Randy. Bilichick and Pats players defend Moss's attitude and effort.

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/rap_sheet/index.php/2010/10/07/patriots-coach-bill-belichick-speaks-on-the-moss-trade-there-was-never-any-incident-or-discipline-problem-with-randy/

and this:

In Defense Of Randy Moss

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/football/patriots/view.bg?articleid=1287488&srvc=blog

GO PACKERS!

[Scott Campbell]

Moss wasn't the problem you may think he was Patler. For your book of knowledge there's this:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/07/welker-alludes-to-moss-leadership-problem/

[Scott Campbell]

I am concerned for Favre and his family and he will be innoscent as far as I'm concerned ...until properly found guilty or admits guilt. woodbuck27

Do you really think there's going to be a trial?

[woodbuck27]

Moss said, "I still have a lot of love for the Minnesota Vikings, man. Just luckily I did get traded here. For what reasons, I still don't know to this day. But I am back."

He doesn't know why he was traded? Really? He throws a fit in NE starts talking publicly about not being loved there, calls out the organization, reportedly has verbal altercations with Brady and the QB coach and also reportedly doesn't get along with the HC and he wonders why he was traded?

Must be nice to live in a world where you don't see any consequences for your actions.

Sorrry man but your mistaken.

Scan up a post or two and you'll discover that the stuff your basing your opinions on are incorrect. Moss got along well in New England and the record to date proves support for that 'as a fact'.

His HC for 'the Pats' Bill Belichick and his teammated do not support that Randy Moss was anything but a solid Patriot. Inmbelieve that Moss was expendable based inthe fact that NE may be looking ahead to that clubs future and felt that it was smart to move Randy Moss to place him in a venue that would be good for him and also allow his needs for a future contract to be met.

It turns out the Belichick and Randy Moss spoke to one another and overall the result was the trade to 'the Vikings'for a 3rd round pick.

Everyone gets 'to happy' that's involved in that transaction. Sometimes it does turn out that way. Even today where we live in a world that is so cynical and not as bright as some of us wish it was and hope it will be.

I hope this helps your understanding of what's real and true Vs false.

Have a great weekend.

GO PACK GO !