Vince Young Finished In TN

[Tony Oday]

I have no doubt he will get another shot...damn I hope that the Vikings give it to him...he is not a QB that can take you all the way.

[Scott Campbell]

...... but you'll get blasted with stat's....

Stats? STATS?????

Oh my gawd no - please, not that.

The nerve of these people.

[Patler]

VY isnt going to be a backup anywhere. With teams like the Niners, Cardinals, Vikings, and so on hes not going to sign with us to be a backup.

...and yet, signing with a team that doesn't need him to play right away, one that has a coaching staff with proven ability at training QBs might be the best thing for his long term career opportunities. That's where his agent could come in and help. A one or two year deal at a place where he can reground himself could help immensely.

The next team to sign him to be their starter right now will likely have even less patience with him. They will expect results almost immediately.

It's different but similar to Michael Vick. He signed where they didn't need him to start. He worked back slowly and it paid off for him, and will with his next contract, wherever that may be.

[Tony Oday]

VY is getting eviscerated on KFAN...saying after talking to people around the NFL VY isnt wanted except maybe in Houston because no GM wants a player that doesnt want to play and doesnt care if he wins...bye bye

[woodbuck27]

Vince Young has a ton of talent but all of his talent is below his shoulders.

We have no pressing need for another QB. I am, watching Aaron Rodgers, and his problems with concussions. Things can change dramatically. I'm thinking Sterling Sharpe and Dorsey Levens and how rapidly his dominance declined.

I think to be an NFL GM or HC you have to be on the job and on the ball. 24/7 for 365 days a year. Always aware of who's available or possibly so. Now that Vince Young is available it's moot to us.

[woodbuck27]

Stats? STATS?????

Oh my gawd no - please, not that.

The nerve of these people.

Scott. Picture the back of my hand. Picture that with a single wave to you.

[Patler]

We have no pressing need for another QB. I am, watching Aaron Rodgers, and his problems with concussions. Things can change dramatically. I'm thinking Sterling Sharpe and Dorsey Levens and how rapidly his dominance declined.

I think to be an NFL GM or HC you have to be on the job and on the ball. 24/7 for 365 days a year. Always aware of who's available or possibly so. Now that Vince Young is available it's moot to us.

Haven't you contradicted yourself within each paragraph?

GB has no pressing need for a backup, but AR has had multiple concussions and a career can end in one play?
A GM always has to be looking to improve 24/7/365. But it is moot that VY is available?

I don't know if I agree or disagree with you, because it is unclear what point you are making.

[MichiganPackerFan]

I'm not sure that we DON'T have a need for a backup. At some point, GB has to cash in the Matt Flynn chip if they don't expect him to be their long term starter (which I don't think anyone does) and start developing someone else young. Look at how many Favre backups were in the league for an extended period of time. Actually, i would LOVE to see that list!

[mraynrand]

Haven't you contradicted yourself within each paragraph?

GB has no pressing need for a backup, but AR has had multiple concussions and a career can end in one play?
A GM always has to be looking to improve 24/7/365. But it is moot that VY is available?

I don't know if I agree or disagree with you, because it is unclear what point you are making.

We have no pressing need for another QB. I am, watching Aaron Rodgers, and his problems with concussions. Things can change dramatically. I'm thinking Sterling Sharpe and Dorsey Levens and how rapidly his dominance declined.

I think to be an NFL GM or HC you have to be on the job and on the ball. 24/7 for 365 days a year. Always aware of who's available or possibly so. Now that Vince Young is available it's moot to us.

[woodbuck27]

Haven't you contradicted yourself within each paragraph?

GB has no pressing need for a backup, but AR has had multiple concussions and a career can end in one play?
A GM always has to be looking to improve 24/7/365. But it is moot that VY is available?

I don't know if I agree or disagree with you, because it is unclear what point you are making.

I didn't think I contradicted myself Patler.

OK I'll do it this way. It's important that you agree with me:

a) NEWS FLASH !! Vince Young is available.

b) As we are aware of that fact so should OUR Team's GM. TT should then assess V. Y's (rumored) availability in real terms as concerns The Green Bay Packers. Ie Does he feel or not that Vince Young and 'the Packers are a good fit and do the Packers need Vince Young.

c) My observation says: We don't 'at present' have a pressing need at the QB position with ARod and a capable backup in Matt Flynn and another developing 3rd string QB.

d) Now ... If ARod should suffer an unfortunate blow. Adding further concern (s) for his concussive issue.

Please refer to: The comment RE: Our past and experience as Packer fans and S. Sharpe and D. Levens and their loss (S. Sharpe) or quick decline (D. Levens)

e) ** Unless something as unfortunate as that (d) should happen.

f) ** The fact that Vince Young is available 'is moot to us'.

So......

g) Vince Young will not land in Green Bay as conditions now exist.

That's my analysis Patler. Savvy?

GO PACK GO!

[Patler]

I didn't think I contradicted myself Patler.

OK I'll do it this way. It's important that you agree with me:

a) NEWS FLASH !! Vince Young is available.

b) As we are aware of that fact so should OUR Team's GM. TT should then assess V. Y's (rumored) availability in real terms as concerns The Green Bay Packers. Ie Does he feel or not that Vince Young and 'the Packers are a good fit and do the Packers need Vince Young.

c) My observation says: We don't 'at present' have a pressing need at the QB position with ARod and a capable backup in Matt Flynn and another developing 3rd string QB.

d) Now ... If ARod should suffer an unfortunate blow. Adding further concern (s) for his concussive issue.

Please refer to: The comment RE: Our past and experience as Packer fans and S. Sharpe and D. Levens and their loss (S. Sharpe) or quick decline (D. Levens)

e) ** Unless something as unfortunate as that (d) should happen.

f) ** The fact that Vince Young is available 'is moot to us'.

So......

g) Vince Young will not land in Green Bay as conditions now exist.

That's my analysis Patler. Savvy?

GO PACK GO!

Flynn's contract expires after 2011 (I think).
At that point the Packers have nothing to trade (subject to tags or RFA rules).
To get value for Flynn, they will need to trade him before or during the 2011 season.
Which means before or during the 2011 season they will need a backup other than Flynn.

Of course, if RFA rules under a new CBA might hold Flynn to GB for 2012, the Packers can delay a trade for another year.

[woodbuck27]

Flynn's contract expires after 2011 (I think).
At that point the Packers have nothing to trade (subject to tags or RFA rules).
To get value for Flynn, they will need to trade him before or during the 2011 season.
Which means before or during the 2011 season they will need a backup other than Flynn.

Of course, if RFA rules under a new CBA might hold Flynn to GB for 2012, the Packers can delay a trade for another year.

TT is aware of all this 'of course'. What may happen (Re: Vince Young and certain availability) if next game Aaron Rodgers gets his bell really rung. Might TT pay some real attention to possibly signing Vince Young?

or Is it all moot?

As I stated in another post. It's my opinion that Vince Young will seek out a team that will allow him to start. For some in here to judge that he's not worthy of such consideration. Again makes Vince Young's possible availability moot, as long as TT agrees with those posters.

[Tony Oday]

Vince Young will be signed by TT even if AR decided to retire after this year. He is a cancer in the locker room, a non winner, bad QB and a head case.

[Lurker64]

It's my opinion that Vince Young will seek out a team that will allow him to start. For some in here to judge that he's not worthy of such consideration. Again makes Vince Young's possible availability moot, as long as TT agrees with those posters.

Well, it goes without question that he'll seek out such an opportunity. The question is whether that opportunity will present itself. It's no secret that Vince Young didn't get along at all with one of the most respected coaches in the league and never won the locker room in Tennessee... so the question is how many people are going to be even willing to give him the chance? He's at his best when things are going well, and no team that has things going well has a dire need for a starting quarterback.

[woodbuck27]

Well, it goes without question that he'll seek out such an opportunity. The question is whether that opportunity will present itself. It's no secret that Vince Young didn't get along at all with one of the most respected coaches in the league and never won the locker room in Tennessee... so the question is how many people are going to be even willing to give him the chance? He's at his best when things are going well, and no team that has things going well has a dire need for a starting quarterback.

or . . . can Vice Young be judged as 'only' doing well, when the outcome of games he's quarterbacking are going well?

Holy mackeral. (-: X 100