Vince Young Finished In TN

[mraynrand]

no interest in Young here

[vince]

I think Graham Harrell may have the potential to be Matt Flynn II. I watched a few practices in camp and also the preseason, so obviously I don't have a lot to go on, but I liked what I saw from him. He doesn't have a strong arm (like Flynn), but he does have the gray matter (like Flynn), is more elusive than Flynn, and has the command to run the West Coast offense (like Flynn). I think he's a competitor and has the intangibles that McCarthy could work with.

[Jimx29]

perhaps the queens get him and find one more way to eff up an entire season??

[Brandon494]

Young is terrible...he may have "it" if "it" is herpes that is about it!

Lets see a 30-17 record as a starter, after starting 0-6 last season with Kerry Collins the team finished 8-2 with VY, and had 98.6 QB rating this season. Try doing some research before trying to bash a player. Hes not the smartest player but if you watched this guy play then you would know he has "it", and Im not talking about the "it" that you have on your upper lip.

[Brandon494]

Well, if we end up trading Flynn for a king's ransom this offseason, I wouldn't be completely opposed to bringing in Young as the backup. If he's ever going to get his head right and learn to play QB, it would probably be in a place like Green Bay and with a coach like McCarthy.

Wouldn't be happy about it though.

Do you even watch the NFL? VY isnt going to be a backup anywhere. With teams like the Niners, Cardinals, Vikings, and so on hes not going to sign with us to be a backup.

[Scott Campbell]

He'll probably get another chance to start somewhere - because he did tease at times in TN. But it's really hard to put your fate in the hands of somebody with a history of being that unstable.

[Brandon494]

I think Graham Harrell may have the potential to be Matt Flynn II. I watched a few practices in camp and also the preseason, so obviously I don't have a lot to go on, but I liked what I saw from him. He doesn't have a strong arm (like Flynn), but he does have the gray matter (like Flynn), is more elusive than Flynn, and has the command to run the West Coast offense (like Flynn). I think he's a competitor and has the intangibles that McCarthy could work with.

Graham Harrell is nothing more than another Colt Bennan.

[bobblehead]

Lets see a 30-17 record as a starter, after starting 0-6 last season with Kerry Collins the team finished 8-2 with VY, and had 98.6 QB rating this season. Try doing some research before trying to bash a player. Hes not the smartest player but if you watched this guy play then you would know he has "it", and Im not talking about the "it" that you have on your upper lip.

completely agree. I think MM would be the perfect coach for him, and mind you I am advocating him spending a year on the bench and in the offseason QB camp MM runs. Teach him the part of the game he is missing, which is recognizing a defense and knowing where to go with the ball instead of relying on god given ability and nothing else. He has done all that with very little in the area of working knowledge of HOW to play QB. I like his chances if he TRULY wants to learn how to play the position.

[Tony Oday]

Lets see a 30-17 record as a starter, after starting 0-6 last season with Kerry Collins the team finished 8-2 with VY, and had 98.6 QB rating this season. Try doing some research before trying to bash a player. Hes not the smartest player but if you watched this guy play then you would know he has "it", and Im not talking about the "it" that you have on your upper lip.

Career Stats
Career Stats Passing Rushing Sacked Fumbles
Season Team G QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD Int Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD Sack YdsL Fum FumL
2006-07 Tennessee 15 66.7 184 357 51.5 2199 146.6 6.2 12 13 83 552 36.8 6.7 7 25 129 11 3
2007-08 Tennessee 15 71.1 238 382 62.3 2546 169.7 6.7 9 17 93 395 26.3 4.2 3 25 157 9 3
2008-09 Tennessee 3 64.5 22 36 61.1 219 73.0 6.1 1 2 8 27 9.0 3.4 0 3 13 2 0
2009-10 Tennessee 12 82.8 152 259 58.7 1879 156.6 7.3 10 7 55 281 23.4 5.1 2 9 36 8 2
2010-11 Tennessee 9 98.6 93 156 59.6 1255 139.4 8.0 10 3 25 125 13.9 5.0 0 13 80 6 4
Career 54 75.7 689 1190 57.9 8098 150.0 6.8 42 42 264 1380 25.6 5.2 12 75 415 36 12


These are the stats of a guy who has had a great defense and running game. He has more turnovers than TDs and two mental breakdowns...he does not have it.

[retailguy]

Lets see a 30-17 record as a starter, after starting 0-6 last season with Kerry Collins the team finished 8-2 with VY, and had 98.6 QB rating this season. Try doing some research before trying to bash a player. Hes not the smartest player but if you watched this guy play then you would know he has "it", and Im not talking about the "it" that you have on your upper lip.

With very few exceptions, I believe that every single drafted players and a bunch that go undrafted have "it", if "it" is talent. However, "it" in this context, as it relates to our dearly departed friend partial, was an undefinable, intangible quality that led to success in an NFL career.

A significant number of NFL players apparently do not possess "it" since most are out of the league in less than 5 years.

What VY is today, from my vantage point anyhow, is a very talented, massive head case. I don't believe it's likely that VY has the maturity to "fix" what ails him, and we are better off passing and investing in guys like Matt Flynn or Graham Harrell.

[Pugger]

With very few exceptions, I believe that every single drafted players and a bunch that go undrafted have "it", if "it" is talent. However, "it" in this context, as it relates to our dearly departed friend partial, was an undefinable, intangible quality that led to success in an NFL career.

A significant number of NFL players apparently do not possess "it" since most are out of the league in less than 5 years.

What VY is today, from my vantage point anyhow, is a very talented, massive head case. I don't believe it's likely that VY has the maturity to "fix" what ails him, and we are better off passing and investing in guys like Matt Flynn or Graham Harrell.

+1

[pbmax]

Career Stats
		                       Passing
Season	    Team	G     QBRat	Comp	Att	Pct	Yds	Y/G     Y/A	TD	Int
2006-07    Tennessee	15    66.7	184	357	51.5	2199	146.6	6.2	12	13
2007-08    Tennessee	15    71.1	238	382	62.3	2546	169.7	6.7	9	17
2008-09    Tennessee	3     64.5	22	36	61.1	219	73.0	6.1	1	2
2009-10    Tennessee	12    82.8	152	259	58.7	1879	156.6	7.3	10	7
2010-11    Tennessee	9     98.6	93	156	59.6	1255	139.4	8.0	10	3
Career	                54    75.7	689	1190	57.9	8098	150.0	6.8	42	42

                             Rushing		         Sacked		 Fumbles
             Rush	Yds	Y/G	Avg	TD    Sack    YdsL     Fum    FumL
             83        552	36.8	6.7	7     25       129     11	3
             93        395	26.3	4.2	3     25       157     9	3
             8         27	9.0	3.4	0     3        13       2	0
             55        281	23.4	5.1	2     9        36       8	2
             25        125	13.9	5.0	0     13       80       6	4
             264       1380 	25.6	5.2	12    75       415     36	12

These are the stats of a guy who has had a great defense and running game. He has more turnovers than TDs and two mental breakdowns...he does not have it.

Better?

[Brando19]

Career Stats
Career Stats Passing Rushing Sacked Fumbles
Season Team G QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD Int Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD Sack YdsL Fum FumL
2006-07 Tennessee 15 66.7 184 357 51.5 2199 146.6 6.2 12 13 83 552 36.8 6.7 7 25 129 11 3
2007-08 Tennessee 15 71.1 238 382 62.3 2546 169.7 6.7 9 17 93 395 26.3 4.2 3 25 157 9 3
2008-09 Tennessee 3 64.5 22 36 61.1 219 73.0 6.1 1 2 8 27 9.0 3.4 0 3 13 2 0
2009-10 Tennessee 12 82.8 152 259 58.7 1879 156.6 7.3 10 7 55 281 23.4 5.1 2 9 36 8 2
2010-11 Tennessee 9 98.6 93 156 59.6 1255 139.4 8.0 10 3 25 125 13.9 5.0 0 13 80 6 4
Career 54 75.7 689 1190 57.9 8098 150.0 6.8 42 42 264 1380 25.6 5.2 12 75 415 36 12


These are the stats of a guy who has had a great defense and running game. He has more turnovers than TDs and two mental breakdowns...he does not have it.

Agreed...this guy is an average/below average QB. One can only hope Minnesota is dumb enough to give up a draft pick to get Vince Young.

[woodbuck27]

Do you even watch the NFL? VY isnt going to be a backup anywhere. With teams like the Niners, Cardinals, Vikings, and so on hes not going to sign with us to be a backup.

Intersting comments and certainly IMO, accurate Packer 'and' ... NFL fan.

Why? When I read such logic in a post here. Does the word 'blinders' come to mind? This needs no response. Your knowledge is obvious... but you'll get blasted with stat's and attacks on Vince Young and anything negative ever printed about him.

These 'boys' love / have to be right. (-:

GO PACK GO !

[Pugger]

Vince Young has a ton of talent but all of his talent is below his shoulders.