For me to continue my support of Thompson........

[Scott Campbell]

Why should Thompson be off the hook because of Injuries? If anything injuries should pin point the glaring needs a team has and the actual strength of it's roster.

An average amount of injuries? No way he should be off the hook. But last year went well beyond average. Even so, Thompson's still got the monkey on his back from a 6-10 season. I get why it happened. But there's only so many times that you can play the injury card.

I will giev you that, but my biggest grievance with him (well documented) is his willingness to count on oft injured players. Jenkins and Harrell are two that come to mind.

I don't know that they've counted on Harrell for some time. But they count on Jenkins a ton. He's been quite the tease lately. If he can't stay healthy this season, all bets are off on this defense.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Truthfully, isn't that what was said two or three years ago? It hasn't happened yet.

In reality, it has. Green Bay has the least turnover of any team in the division. Only 10 guys on the roster weren't with the team last year. Minnesota and Chicago has 13 new players and Detroit has like 1/2 their roster. They are still young, but you aren't seeing the turnover of the roster that you have the last few seasons.

[bobblehead]

Why should Thompson be off the hook because of Injuries? If anything injuries should pin point the glaring needs a team has and the actual strength of it's roster.

An average amount of injuries? No way he should be off the hook. But last year went well beyond average. Even so, Thompson's still got the monkey on his back from a 6-10 season. I get why it happened. But there's only so many times that you can play the injury card.

I will giev you that, but my biggest grievance with him (well documented) is his willingness to count on oft injured players. Jenkins and Harrell are two that come to mind.

I could be wrong here, but was jenkins hurt much before the last 2 seasons? It seems to me he was healthy and continually improved until 2 seasons ago when he first got hurt, then last year again. If I am wrong, sorry, but if not, I don't think 2 seasons constitutes oft injured.

[Lurker64]

I could be wrong here, but was jenkins hurt much before the last 2 seasons? It seems to me he was healthy and continually improved until 2 seasons ago when he first got hurt, then last year again. If I am wrong, sorry, but if not, I don't think 2 seasons constitutes oft injured.

In 2004, his first year as a Packer (he played in NFL Europe previously), Cullen Jenkins played in 16 games and started 6.
In 2005, Jenkins played in 16 games and started 12.
In 2006, Jenkins played in 14 games and started 5.
In 2007 Jenkins played in 16 games and started 15.
In 2008 Jenkins played and started the first four games before suffering a torn pectoral muscle which put him on the shelf for the rest of the season.

So other than last year, he hasn't really been made unavailable very often due to injury. Certainly there were points in 2007 where he was less effective than he could have been due to a variety of minor injuries, but he still played through them. Hell, every NFL player is going to be hampered by minor nicks and bruises as the season goes on. Isn't "played in virtually every game all but one season for his entire career as a Packer" enough to avoid the "injury prone" tag? I mean, he's played in 66/80 regular season games as a Packer and previous to last year, he had played in 62/64.

[SnakeLH2006]

I'm fine with TT's astute look on talent...

But I hate Scrabble, wine, and En Vogue. Let's hope we win this year, else my TT friendship WILL end.

[RashanGary]

A lot of you are talking about all this young talent, which is great to have, but how come the Packers are only getting older by a tenth of a year? This so called young talent gets replaced each year by new young talent.

It's because we're supposed to have players still around from the 2001-2004 drafts. Because that was a span where we ended up with almost no good young talent, we ended up with almost no good veteran talent 5 years later.

As Wolf's guys get replaced, we're replacing them with young guys. It's kind of an unbalanced roster in that most teams with even average drafts have a few more core players in their prime.

That youngest team in the league tag can mean a few things. In this case, it means we don't have many players from a span of lean drafts, but we do have a lot of young, experienced players that have proven they can play (maybe more than any team in the league) and a lot of young players that have shown reason for optimism.


Where you see reason to doom, gloom and a reason to pout, I see reason to celebrate an exciting new season where I expect the Packers to dominate. We'll find out who is right.

[RashanGary]

Greg Jennings
Aaron Rodgers
Nick Collins
Darryn Colledge
Jason Spitz
Tramon Williams
BJ Raji
Johnny Jolly
Ryan Grant
Korey Hall



Jermichael Finley
James Jones
Jordy Nelson
Josh Sitton
Allen Barbre
AJ Hawk
Clay Matthews
Brandon Jackson
DeShawn Wynn
Quinn Johnson

. . . .


Young? Yeah, they're young but I'll bet there are quite a few GM's that would trade their old talent for our young talent right now. You're making the mistake of presuming Ted Thompson crashed this team and it will stay crashed. What I think happened is 4 bad drafts in a row lead to a couple down years. Ted was on this staff when we won the SB. He was a key member of the Seattle staff when they went, and now, depending on how you view it, he's assembled a competitor here in Green Bay. Time will tell, but I think you are dead wrong about our young talent. I think they're good and I think it's a reason for optimism. It's the reason we're under the radar, even though we are considered a top team by Vegas. I think we're better than the good rating Vegas gives us.