Packer Rats MOCK DRAFT

[Bretsky]

Na, round one is in the books. You campaigned very well though; if that old crab Kloppenberg would've hired you she's have taken down her opposition......ok...sorry pb...no more references......lol

[Lurker64]

Na, round one is in the books. You campaigned very well though; if that old crab Kloppenberg would've hired you she's have taken down her opposition......ok...sorry pb...no more references......lol

As someone who has written mock drafts, I'm not sure why exactly we stop with just one revision. It's not like we don't get a better idea about what's going to happen closer to the actual draft than we had when we started.

If nothing else, it would be interesting to see who the Packers would pick if, as you say, Ingram was off the board.

[Bretsky]

not really; we'd have picked Reed and the numbers show that......well......unless Bowers falls all the way to 32...which is pretty unlikely

[Lurker64]

not really; we'd have picked Reed and the numbers show that......well......unless Bowers falls all the way to 32...which is pretty unlikely

Not sure that Reed beats Ijalana or Baldwin in a head to head. A number of people (myself included) just voted for Reed because he was the leading non-Ingram candidate when they voted. I think his support is more due to people who didn't want Ingram than people who wanted Reed.

[Guiness]

Put me down as liking the idea of re-doing round 1 with a team shuffle.

[Guiness]

Why not Ingram? He was clearly the best player who slipped WAY down the board. If his knees pass the physical, he should be gone by 15, if he's available at 32 there's no way you leave him there.

You can't leave value like that on the table. TT trusts his staff to know everything he has to about a player, so isn't afraid to shy away from someone who has suddenly become unpopular - hence both the Rodger and the Brohm pick.

[Bretsky]

Not sure that Reed beats Ijalana or Baldwin in a head to head. A number of people (myself included) just voted for Reed because he was the leading non-Ingram candidate when they voted. I think his support is more due to people who didn't want Ingram than people who wanted Reed.

ahh. vote manipulation.....you should be a politician !! You were actually the only one who openly admistted to doing this. Maybe there were others.

Well I don't want to reward the corruption by redoing it all

[Bretsky]

Why not Ingram? He was clearly the best player who slipped WAY down the board. If his knees pass the physical, he should be gone by 15, if he's available at 32 there's no way you leave him there.

You can't leave value like that on the table. TT trusts his staff to know everything he has to about a player, so isn't afraid to shy away from someone who has suddenly become unpopular - hence both the Rodger and the Brohm pick.

agree; if his knees are fine I don't see any sites out there grading Ingram lower than where we selected him value wise. Most of the other guys left were definitely round two guys

[Lurker64]

Why not Ingram? He was clearly the best player who slipped WAY down the board. If his knees pass the physical, he should be gone by 15, if he's available at 32 there's no way you leave him there.

If his knees are a mess, you don't take him even if he falls to 32. If his knees are okay, he doesn't fall that far. Two can play this game.

I simply don't agree that Ingram is a special talent. He played behind a supremely talented offensive line which was responsible for much of his success. I sincerely believe that if Alabama were not so dominant in the trenches in his 2009 campaign, he doesn't even sniff the Heisman. Anybody with two legs could have gotten through a lot of the holes that were opened for him.

As a person who watches a lot of college football, I consider both Mikel Leshoure and Ryan Williams (2009 edition) to be superior players to Ingram, but I wouldn't put any of the three in the top 32 players of the draft.

[Bretsky]

If his knees are a mess, you don't take him even if he falls to 32. If his knees are okay, he doesn't fall that far. Two can play this game.

I simply don't agree that Ingram is a special talent. He played behind a supremely talented offensive line which was responsible for much of his success. I sincerely believe that if Alabama were not so dominant in the trenches in his 2009 campaign, he doesn't even sniff the Heisman. Anybody with two legs could have gotten through a lot of the holes that were opened for him.

As a person who watches a lot of college football, I consider both Mikel Leshoure and Ryan Williams (2009 edition) to be superior players to Ingram, but I wouldn't put any of the three in the top 32 players of the draft.

OK, you kind of contradict yourself here.

There was a safe assumption as was noted that Ingram's knees were fine given our mock draft scenario. It's the way the board fell. He was still there. When you noted "if his knees are fine he doesn't fall that far" that seems to vindicate why everybody voted for him at pick number thirty two in a sense.

But then you later point out that none of the three are in the top thirty two.

I guess the one thing I'd concluded is you are not in agreement with the draft analysts on the Internet and the scouts that help put these tiers together. You might be completely right and Ingram will be very normal and not elite. Time will tell.

[swede]

At this point I regret that Hoody and I didn't pick Ingram when we had the chance.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

I wouldn't mind seeing a revision as well. Lurker brings about some good points. Every mock draft "pundit" makes several revisions.

[gbpackfan]

I'll pick a team or two for the second round or the re-do, but someone else can run and keep people on a timer.

[Lurker64]

I wouldn't mind seeing a revision as well. Lurker brings about some good points. Every mock draft "pundit" makes several revisions.

Plus, if we have two versions we have more opportunities to claim that we're right.

[swede]

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