James Jones Wants to Start

[Joe]

One thing I haven't seen mentioned. Some folks think that both Jones and Jordy will displace Driver. I don't think that's going to happen, because the #4 WR typically plays special teams. If Jordy makes the #2 as some of you think he will, then does he give up his ST duties? If so, who takes them? Driver? I don't see that.

Actually, what I see, is if Jones comes back, and they both pass Driver, then I think Driver might be waived, or choose to retire. I just don't see him as a #4 WR because of the ST responsibilities. On that basis, if TT believes that Driver can be a quality #3, Jones may have less value to him than he normally would have, since you can develop two young wideouts before Driver has to retire.

I'm just not sure Jones is back, and I really think it depends on if we draft a WR early in the draft.

[mraynrand]

Funny, I saw Tramon Williams and Bishop out there on special teams last season.

[RashanGary]

One thing I haven't seen mentioned. Some folks think that both Jones and Jordy will displace Driver. I don't think that's going to happen, because the #4 WR typically plays special teams. If Jordy makes the #2 as some of you think he will, then does he give up his ST duties? If so, who takes them? Driver? I don't see that.

Actually, what I see, is if Jones comes back, and they both pass Driver, then I think Driver might be waived, or choose to retire. I just don't see him as a #4 WR because of the ST responsibilities. On that basis, if TT believes that Driver can be a quality #3, Jones may have less value to him than he normally would have, since you can develop two young wideouts before Driver has to retire.

I'm just not sure Jones is back, and I really think it depends on if we draft a WR early in the draft.

I'm on board with this. It's like the Hawk situation. There are some tough decisions to make this offseason. It's incredibly hard to predict what will happen. I think Jones has Joe Horn talent so that makes him a #1. He has inconsistent hands. That makes him a guy people love to hate. He's never had a chance to start so he's never put up big numbers. He had the year he lost to injury.

I tend to think he'll be back just on talent but the situation makes it so uncertain.

I've proven with the Hawk thing, I have no clue. I'll put my chips on having him back and hope the roulette wheel falls on Green.

[RashanGary]

Funny, I saw Tramon Williams and Bishop out there on special teams last season.

Collins and Hawk too.

[mission]

I'm on board with this. It's like the Hawk situation. There are some tough decisions to make this offseason. It's incredibly hard to predict what will happen. I think Jones has Joe Horn talent so that makes him a #1. He has inconsistent hands. That makes him a guy people love to hate. He's never had a chance to start so he's never put up big numbers. He had the year he lost to injury.

I tend to think he'll be back just on talent but the situation makes it so uncertain.

I've proven with the Hawk thing, I have no clue. I'll put my chips on having him back and hope the roulette wheel falls on Green.

I'd hope we have a slightly better chance of getting Jones back then that happening!

[swede]

"I know I've dropped certain touchdown passes in key playoff situations; nonetheless, I need to make as much money as I can because an NFL player's career is notoriously short. Thus, if Green Bay is willing to pay me like a starter, I will stay. If not, I will go. Dan Snyder is easier to bend over than the sheep on Jordy Nelson's farm."

Good use of bend over.

[Joe]

Funny, I saw Tramon Williams and Bishop out there on special teams last season.

It isn't typical to see your starting receivers on ST. It also isn't typical to see other starters play ST. This years GBP team wasn't typical. I just don't believe you see Donald Driver out there on ST. I think he's gone before that happens. Maybe you keep Jones on ST, but the 1 & 2 guys will be practicing with the offense and won't have time for ST practice, nor do I believe that the team will want to take the injury risk with its top receivers.

[Fritz]

Good use of bend over.

Red Rover Red Rover, Dan Snyder bends over!

[Smeefers]

It isn't typical to see your starting receivers on ST. It also isn't typical to see other starters play ST. This years GBP team wasn't typical. I just don't believe you see Donald Driver out there on ST. I think he's gone before that happens. Maybe you keep Jones on ST, but the 1 & 2 guys will be practicing with the offense and won't have time for ST practice, nor do I believe that the team will want to take the injury risk with its top receivers.

I don't see Both Nelson and Jones jumping over DD. DD will still be great in the slot, so that'll keep him at #3. If they do move the depth chart around, I have no doubt that they'd make an exception for driver and put their #3 in ST instead of him.

[Smidgeon]

I don't see Both Nelson and Jones jumping over DD. DD will still be great in the slot, so that'll keep him at #3. If they do move the depth chart around, I have no doubt that they'd make an exception for driver and put their #3 in ST instead of him.

I don't think he'll be "great" in the slot anymore. The injuries started this last year (and could get better, but less likely than them getting worse), and he's been dropping more balls later in his career than earlier. While I think he could be "good" in the slot, I don't think it's a reach that (if Jones does come back) both Jones and Nelson surpass him.

[Smeefers]

I don't think he'll be "great" in the slot anymore. The injuries started this last year (and could get better, but less likely than them getting worse), and he's been dropping more balls later in his career than earlier. While I think he could be "good" in the slot, I don't think it's a reach that (if Jones does come back) both Jones and Nelson surpass him.

But... But... Donald Driver is immortal. There can be only one...

[mraynrand]

I don't think he'll be "great" in the slot anymore.

Shouldn't this be in the Tiki Barber thread?

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Jones parallels Bishop quite a bit. Bishop always flashed talent and talked about how he is a starter, but never got the chance until Barnett went down. I think if Jones stays in Green Bay he will eventually pass Driver on the depth chart and show he is a quality starter. The problem is we need him to see it as an opportunity to prove himself instead of taking the easy way out and going to the highest bidder.

I think he is more talented than Nelson and is already a better WR than Driver. I think the key to him staying will be does he actually want to be patient and put it the extra work or does he just want the most amount money he can get right now. Will he spend extra time in the offseason training, working on his hands, showing coaching to is dedicated to getting better? Finely and Jennings both go to Fitzgerald’s training for Wr’s every year, why doesn’t he go with them?

The way he is talking it sounds like he is going to the highest bidder and that won’t be us. A lot of talent, but very inconsistant so I don't blame TT if he doesn't throw money at him. He could be a great WR but right now he simply is not.

[pbmax]

Jones parallels Bishop quite a bit. Bishop always flashed talent and talked about how he is a starter, but never got the chance until Barnett went down. I think if Jones stays in Green Bay he will eventually pass Driver on the depth chart and show he is a quality starter. The problem is we need him to see it as an opportunity to prove himself instead of taking the easy way out and going to the highest bidder.

I think he is more talented than Nelson and is already a better WR than Driver. I think the key to him staying will be does he actually want to be patient and put it the extra work or does he just want the most amount money he can get right now. Will he spend extra time in the offseason training, working on his hands, showing coaching to is dedicated to getting better? Finely and Jennings both go to Fitzgerald’s training for Wr’s every year, why doesn’t he go with them?

The way he is talking it sounds like he is going to the highest bidder and that won’t be us. A lot of talent, but very inconsistant so I don't blame TT if he doesn't throw money at him. He could be a great WR but right now he simply is not.

I see your point and he might improve if asked to step up, but Jones has had a lot more opportunity than Bishop had to play meaningful snaps in regular season and playoff games. Just the number of plays each had been involved with outside of preseason would favor Jones by a wide margin. I think we know him better than Bishop. Of course, I have been wrong before.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I see your point and he might improve if asked to step up, but Jones has had a lot more opportunity than Bishop had to play meaningful snaps in regular season and playoff games. Just the number of plays each had been involved with outside of preseason would favor Jones by a wide margin. I think we know him better than Bishop. Of course, I have been wrong before.

Up until the middle of the year, he's also had more opportunity to play than Nelson. When they evened out the snaps between Nelson and Jones in the second half of the year, Nelson was more productive.