2011 PackerRats community mock second draft

[Lurker64]

I think now we need to figure out who we should put in the Packer poll.

Best OL available are probably Ijalana, Watkins, and Wisniewski.
Best OLBs available are probably Reed and Martez Wilson
Best WRs available are probably Baldwin, Young, and Hankerson
Best RB available is probably Mikel LeShoure
Best TE available is Kyle Rudolph
Best DL available is probably Clayborn (though you could knock him for the fact that one of his arms doesn't really work), Austin and Paea are good values but bad fits. I may actually like Ballard more than Clayborn.
Best DB available is Jimmy Smith but he's a bad person. Brandon Harris is available, but Ted would not draft him so I don't think we should consider it.

Anybody want to help me pare down this list or nominate some other people?

[RashanGary]

What's wrong with Clayborn's arm? Austin is a good fit, but a character concern. He'd be a great DE.

[Smeefers]

Couldn't we do like, a bracket thing with these guys? Can you have a poll where you can answer more than one question? We could poll on each of those guys, then use the ESPN.com or NFL.com ranking system on the guys to do a bracket style poll off.

[Tarlam!]

At this point, TT will go OT or OLB, IMHO, because I think the guys available at those positions offer better value than, say DE or RB. I wonder if he'd take CB Smith, seeing as how Woodson would be able to mentor him.

[Lurker64]

What's wrong with Clayborn's arm? Austin is a good fit, but a character concern. He'd be a great DE.

Clayborn has Erb's Palsy, so he doesn't have full range of motion or effective strength in his right arm. Didn't keep him from being a quality football player in college, but how much does that scare you?

[Smidgeon]

I thought WR Baldwin was taken...

[packrulz]

WR Randall Cobb is still there. DE Jabaal Sheard is still there.

[Lurker64]

I thought WR Baldwin was taken...

You are correct:
#1: Panthers: Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama (Lurker64)
#2: Broncos: Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn (JustinHarrell)
#3: Bills: Cam Newton, QB, Auburn (Smeefers)
#4: Bengals: Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri (Guiness)
#5: Cardinals: Von Miller, LB, Texas A&M (Deputy Nutz)
#6: Browns: Julio Jones, WR, Alabama (Freak Out)
#7: 49ers: Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU (3irty1)
#8: Titans: J.J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin (Smeefers)
#9: Cowboys: Robert Quinn, DE/OLB, North Carolina (packrulz)
#10: Redskins: A.J. Green, WR, Georgia (JustinHarrell)
#11: Texans: Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska (Lurker64)
#12: Vikings: Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue (TennesseePackerBacker)
#13: Lions: Tyron Smith, OT, USC (get louder at lambeau)
#14: Rams: Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri (PackerPro42)
#15: Dolphins: Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama (Deputy Nutz)
#16: Jaguars: Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson (Bretsky)
#17: Patriots: Cameron Jordan, DE, California (Lurker64)
#18: Chargers: Muhammed Wilkerson, DE, Temple (Bretsky)
#19: Giants: Anthony Castonzo, OT, Boston College (Cheesehead Craig)
#20: Bucs: Justin Houston, DE, Georgia (Fred's Slacks)
#21: Chiefs: Phil Taylor, NT, Baylor (Bretsky)
#22: Colts: Nate Solder, OT, Colorado (Lurker64)
#23: Eagles: Mike Pouncey, OG, Florida (Guiness)
#24: Saints: Akeem Ayers, OLB, UCLA (Tarlam!)
#25: Seahawks: Corey Liuget, DT, Illinois (packrulz)
#26: Ravens: Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State (Bretsky)
#27: Falcons: Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin (JustinHarrell)
#28: Patriots: Jonathan Baldwin, WR, Pittsburgh (TennesseePackerBacker)
#29: Bears: Derrick Sherrod, OT, Mississppi State (Tarlam!)
#30: Jets: Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland (JustinHarrell)
#31: Steelers: Aaron Williams, CB, Texas (TennesseePackerBacker)
#32: Packers

Top WRs available are Leonard Hankerson, Titus Young, and Randall Cobb probably. Not a lot of value taking the fifth WR at #32 in this draft.

[Bretsky]

Why Williams over CB's Jimmy Smith and Brandon Harris? Just curious really. Smith's liability is character issues, but he is the most physically gifted of the three second-tier corners.

Smith is the guy of this mock that I'm really surprised falls to 32.

[Bretsky]

I think these eight are solid.

If we went to a seed format I'd put the brackets like this

1. Jimmy Smith
2. Brooks Reed
3. Ijalana
4. Clayborune
5. Watkins
6. Leshoure
7. Austin
8. Young

[Bretsky]

WR Randall Cobb is still there. DE Jabaal Sheard is still there.

I think both of those guys are very intruiging; I just don't think they are first round guys.

[Bretsky]

You are correct:
#1: Panthers: Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama (Lurker64)
#2: Broncos: Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn (JustinHarrell)
#3: Bills: Cam Newton, QB, Auburn (Smeefers)
#4: Bengals: Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri (Guiness)
#5: Cardinals: Von Miller, LB, Texas A&M (Deputy Nutz)
#6: Browns: Julio Jones, WR, Alabama (Freak Out)
#7: 49ers: Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU (3irty1)
#8: Titans: J.J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin (Smeefers)
#9: Cowboys: Robert Quinn, DE/OLB, North Carolina (packrulz)
#10: Redskins: A.J. Green, WR, Georgia (JustinHarrell)
#11: Texans: Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska (Lurker64)
#12: Vikings: Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue (TennesseePackerBacker)
#13: Lions: Tyron Smith, OT, USC (get louder at lambeau)
#14: Rams: Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri (PackerPro42)
#15: Dolphins: Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama (Deputy Nutz)
#16: Jaguars: Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson (Bretsky)
#17: Patriots: Cameron Jordan, DE, California (Lurker64)
#18: Chargers: Muhammed Wilkerson, DE, Temple (Bretsky)
#19: Giants: Anthony Castonzo, OT, Boston College (Cheesehead Craig)
#20: Bucs: Justin Houston, DE, Georgia (Fred's Slacks)
#21: Chiefs: Phil Taylor, NT, Baylor (Bretsky)
#22: Colts: Nate Solder, OT, Colorado (Lurker64)
#23: Eagles: Mike Pouncey, OG, Florida (Guiness)
#24: Saints: Akeem Ayers, OLB, UCLA (Tarlam!)
#25: Seahawks: Corey Liuget, DT, Illinois (packrulz)
#26: Ravens: Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State (Bretsky)
#27: Falcons: Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin (JustinHarrell)
#28: Patriots: Jonathan Baldwin, WR, Pittsburgh (TennesseePackerBacker)
#29: Bears: Derrick Sherrod, OT, Mississppi State (Tarlam!)
#30: Jets: Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland (JustinHarrell)
#31: Steelers: Aaron Williams, CB, Texas (TennesseePackerBacker)
#32: Packers

Top WRs available are Leonard Hankerson, Titus Young, and Randall Cobb probably. Not a lot of value taking the fifth WR at #32 in this draft.

Not sure which WR to throw in there but one might be a good idea

[Guiness]

lol at unilaterally striking the top QB and ILB options off the board.

Jack Locker is probably a first round talent on most boards. Martez Wilson has been up and down, although mostly down lately. Probably not in consideration at this point.

Agreed though, that neither of these players are likely picks for the Pack. Not just because we're stocked at those positions, but also because I just don't see them as representing much value. I know everyone's high on Brooks Reed as well, but I don't see that either.

I'm curious to go look and see who was available to us last time, that's off the board this time, and vice versa.

[Bretsky]

Let me go by memory cause I'm too lazy to research it

Mark Ingram was available last time and he's off the board now
Jonathan Baldwin was available last time and is off our board

Jimmy Smith was selected on the last draft and is avialable now
I think Claybroune was selected on the last draft and is available now

[Bretsky]

lol at unilaterally striking the top QB and ILB options off the board.

Jack Locker is probably a first round talent on most boards. Martez Wilson has been up and down, although mostly down lately. Probably not in consideration at this point.

Agreed though, that neither of these players are likely picks for the Pack. Not just because we're stocked at those positions, but also because I just don't see them as representing much value. I know everyone's high on Brooks Reed as well, but I don't see that either.

I'm curious to go look and see who was available to us last time, that's off the board this time, and vice versa.

I don't know a ton about Wilson; I just can't see us going ILB. I would not at all be surprised if two more QB's are not drafted in round one than we have.....which might allow for a player to slip into our lap.

I wouldn't be surprised if Hoody took Brooks Reed a few picks earlier. He's been getting pimped as a late first rounder at more sites than a couple months ago.

He also seems to have a lot of intangibles in addition to being a pretty good talent.