Plaxico Burress - Newest result of black salvation...

[Freak Out]

[Freak Out]

Plastico does Dallas.

[Deputy Nutz]

Fucker is prepared for anything(life vest), I will give him that.

[SkinBasket]

And as for you...my neighbors are not black, they have house dogs that they don't leave out all day and when you decide to assign ideas to me because some idiot liberal that has nothing to do with me thought of them, you are generalizing.

I never said your neighbors are black. I said my neighbors were black. Guessing that a dog was beaten out of doors without anyone seeing led me to believe it was probably out there for a long time without supervision. Thus my hypothesis. Those are assumptions and guesses. Not generalizations.

I would challenge you, however, to find where I assigned a political argument to you that you did not make yourself. I am more than willing to apologize if that is the case.

[SkinBasket]

Attention whore

Fluffy butt.

[MJZiggy]

I never said your neighbors are black. I said my neighbors were black. Guessing that a dog was beaten out of doors without anyone seeing led me to believe it was probably out there for a long time without supervision. Thus my hypothesis. Those are assumptions and guesses. Not generalizations.

I would challenge you, however, to find where I assigned a political argument to you that you did not make yourself. I am more than willing to apologize if that is the case.

You're only saying that because the search function doesn't work. Any phrase that starts with "you libs..." probably applies. There are lots of them.

[bobblehead]

From what I can tell, if Plaxico was white, Skin would have a problem and that problem would be that he shot himself and took no responsibility for it, played the victim card instead of owning up to his own role in the injury and then setting himself up as some sort of hero as if he overcame what others did to him when in reality the idiot shot himself. He could have come out and said "I totally shot myself. It was the dumbest damn thing I've ever done and there's no one to blame but me. I'm glad to be out of prison and hope like hell that my own stupidity doesn't prevent me from getting back to doing what I love."

But he didn't. And THAT is the problem. If you think this is white/black, ask me if I think Ben's new wife has a brain in her head for marrying such a misogynist. He didn't come clean and I haven't forgiven him either.

That really is a trick question....is Ben black?

[bobblehead]

You're only saying that because the search function doesn't work. Any phrase that starts with "you libs..." probably applies. There are lots of them.

You libs are always complaining about us attacking your positions.

[MJZiggy]

That really is a trick question....is Ben black?

It's not a trick question. The rapist is white. And his wife is a moron for thinking that he couldn't do something like that again. I hope she's spoken to Elin and has her golf clubs stored someplace easily accessible. In other words, he hasn't truly taken responsibility for what he did either.

[MJZiggy]

You libs are always complaining about us attacking your positions.

I'm not a lib. Quit making generalizations.

[SkinBasket]

You're only saying that because the search function doesn't work. Any phrase that starts with "you libs..." probably applies. There are lots of them.

Who said I was addressing you when I said "you libs?"

Besides, I certainly disagree with a lot of your political positions that you've put forward in FYI and some of them have been very liberal/progressive. If you hold a lot of liberal ideas, I guess you can still call yourself whatever you want, but for the purpose of discussion, I'm going to say you are what you eat. You've sourced Jon Stewart as your news outlet for god's sake.

But I understand why you don't want to look for examples in FYI. Just let me know in the future when you feel generalized and we can discuss it then.

[sharpe1027]

Race is an issue here. I talked about it earlier. But it's not my issue. It's theirs.

I've provided two examples of an identifiable sympathy in the black community for black athletes who commit crimes then fail to accept accountability or responsibility. That's hardly generalizing. Unless someone wants to argue that the black community didn't embrace Mike Vick in a way they would not have embraced a white athlete guilty of the same crimes or that they won't embrace Plaxico. Prove that, and I may be guilty of generalizing the black community. Or predicting the generalization of the black community. Or generalizing the prediction of the response of the black community.

Considering the "white community" embraced Mike Vick pretty damn quickly, I really don't see the point of singling out the "black community." Oops, I just generalized 70% of the US population.

You presented your theory as to why the "black community" embraced Vick and yet that theory would not apply to the "white community," that also embraced Vick. It would seem that, based upon your debate rules, justifying your position would require that you prove that the black community wouldn't have embraced a white athlete guilty of the same crimes.

[MadtownPacker]

I think he got way too long for being an idiot. Since he didn't hurt anyone else, 6 months jail and 6 months house arrest would have been fair.

I agree with some of the shit Skin says but I am also randomly prejudice.

[NewsBruin]

So, who from the Monolithic Black Community has embraced Plexico, other than Plexico?

Shoot, Alex Rodroguez, Mark McGuire, Matt Millen, Jeremy Shockey, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Trent Lott, and the Canadian TSA have issued non-apology apologies. Does that make them black?

[mraynrand]

So, who from the Monolithic Black Community has embraced Plexico, other than Plexico?

Shoot, Alex Rodroguez, Mark McGuire, Matt Millen, Jeremy Shockey, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Trent Lott, and the Canadian TSA have issued non-apology apologies. Does that make them black?

It's unfortunate that the race issue got mixed in again, because largely it's not vital to this particular issue. The point is whether a person takes responsibility for their actions
or seeks to play the victim card. I suppose we could discuss which groups are more likely to play the card and why that may be so, but it doesn't change the fact that Plexiglass seemed to have little interest in being accountable for his own actions.