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How do you know? I know you "believe", but how do you KNOW. You state these things as unequivocal fact. I just don't see it. Today, things are rosy. But tomorrow? Somebody might throw trash on his lawn like they did Carson Palmer, and then what've you got?Originally posted by Brandon494 View PostMcCarthy is not that type of guy
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Nobody knows for sure, but it seems highly probable that McCarthy is telling the truth when he gushes about Green Bay. He's from a blue collar town (Pittsburgh) that is similar to Green Bay. Holmgren was a West Coast guy. He married somebody from Green Bay. Holmgren was married before he got here. McCarthy doesn't have aspirations for being in complete control. Holmgren always did. Holmgren was in Green Bay for 7 years and was coming off 6 straight playoff appearances. McCarthy is already going on year 5, and if he maintains a similar amount of success, I'd be absolutely shocked if he looked to go elsewhere or suddenly became interested in having complete control. I think McCarthy realizes how good he has. I'm not sure Holmgren did."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostNobody knows for sure, but it seems highly probable that McCarthy is telling the truth when he gushes about Green Bay. He's from a blue collar town (Pittsburgh) that is similar to Green Bay. Holmgren was a West Coast guy. He married somebody from Green Bay. Holmgren was married before he got here. McCarthy doesn't have aspirations for being in complete control. Holmgren always did. Holmgren was in Green Bay for 7 years and was coming off 6 straight playoff appearances. McCarthy is already going on year 5, and if he maintains a similar amount of success, I'd be absolutely shocked if he looked to go elsewhere or suddenly became interested in having complete control. I think McCarthy realizes how good he has. I'm not sure Holmgren did.
If you were to contrast the Wolf/Holmgren regime with the Thompson/McCarthy regime, perhaps the biggest difference between the two would be the egos involved.
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Haha ok man. Ive given you facts to why he would stay along with other posters. Since you want to argue over something so dumb give me some facts to why he would leave Green Bay.Originally posted by retailguy View PostHow do you know? I know you "believe", but how do you KNOW. You state these things as unequivocal fact. I just don't see it. Today, things are rosy. But tomorrow? Somebody might throw trash on his lawn like they did Carson Palmer, and then what've you got?
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By this time after the Packers won the Super Bowl in 1997 (the ultimate success), we knew Holmgren had bigger aspirations. McCarthy gives off a completely different vibe.Originally posted by Scott Campbell View PostSome people change and get a big head with a little success."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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I agree. Holmy gave off some of that vibe before they won the big one too. Lets hope McCarthy remains unaffected.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostBy this time after the Packers won the Super Bowl in 1997 (the ultimate success), we knew Holmgren had bigger aspirations. McCarthy gives off a completely different vibe.
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Heck, it was rumored almost from the day he came to GB that Holmgren and his wife were west coast people through and through, and would go back there when an opportunity presented itself. His ambitions to be more than a head coach were also well-known.
MM has come out several times and expressed his lack of desire to do anything but coach, at least for right now.
I always suspected Holmgren would leave. I never expected a long run from him. GB was a stepping stone for him.
I think there is a good chance that MM stays for a long, long time. I don't expect him to leave to coach anywhere else. He could burn out from coaching and leaving for something with another team off the field, but I don't expect that to happen for a long time.
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Strange, from what I have seen of Freeman he seems mobile within a pocket and has a great feel for pressure, but I wouldn't say he has anywhere near Rodgers speed.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostI agree with most of what you said, but I'd say Josh Freeman plays the position well. He'd be 2a with Rodgers being 2b.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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This. M3 is from a town that's had, what 5 HCs in it's history? He grew up with coaching longevity. He has plenty of green. His bride is from there. I believe he' be tempted if Rooney called him, but I think he'd stay in GB.Originally posted by Patler View PostI think there is a good chance that MM stays for a long, long time. I don't expect him to leave to coach anywhere else. He could burn out from coaching and leaving for something with another team off the field, but I don't expect that to happen for a long time.
My worry these days is how long Dom Capers will do it. He's a major part of the equation from where I'm sitting, and what Patler suggests about burnout might apply to Capers earlier.
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Look, I'm not running around making unequivocal statements. I do know folks get big heads from time to time. GB wins another Super Bowl, maybe things change? Maybe they don't. You talk in unequivocal statements all the time Brandon. I just wanted to know how you knew.Originally posted by Brandon494 View PostHaha ok man. Ive given you facts to why he would stay along with other posters. Since you want to argue over something so dumb give me some facts to why he would leave Green Bay.
Simple. If you'd have said, "I believe", I'd have stayed quiet. But it sounded like you had info that I didn't. I wanted to know what you knew...
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Yes we are bound to see changes with the success of our team and Dom Capers ( a major reason for that success) will more than likely set to go to be a HC somewhere in the NFL or in College Football.Originally posted by Tarlam! View PostThis. M3 is from a town that's had, what 5 HCs in it's history? He grew up with coaching longevity. He has plenty of green. His bride is from there. I believe he' be tempted if Rooney called him, but I think he'd stay in GB.
My worry these days is how long Dom Capers will do it. He's a major part of the equation from where I'm sitting, and what Patler suggests about burnout might apply to Capers earlier.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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Who might they groom to replace Capers? Perry? Greene? Whitt Jr?Originally posted by Tarlam! View PostThis. M3 is from a town that's had, what 5 HCs in it's history? He grew up with coaching longevity. He has plenty of green. His bride is from there. I believe he' be tempted if Rooney called him, but I think he'd stay in GB.
My worry these days is how long Dom Capers will do it. He's a major part of the equation from where I'm sitting, and what Patler suggests about burnout might apply to Capers earlier.No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.
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