Canton and Rodgers

[Brandon494]

If you are looking for an arm better than Rodgers look no further than Matt Stafford. With Russel gone he has to be the strongest arm in the league. Brady? No way. Brady? Maybe.

I think you mean Brees no way and Brady maybe. Starting QBs in the league with more arm strength then Rodgers would be Joe Flacco, Matthew Stafford, Jay Cutler, Vick, and Big Ben. Of those QBs Rodgers still throws the best deep ball.

[Tarlam!]

And accuracy is missing from the list. When I think how often he hit targets last season between the numbers only to have them dropped.... Beautiful passes, leading the receiver open not getting sold a dump. I don't know of a QB that is better.

But the discussion isn't whether or not he's good. It's whether or not he's Canton good.

For me, I need a few more years to decide.

[th87]

Peyton doesn't come close in the head category. Sure, he knows where to throw the ball, but you can fluster him and if you do, he calls his teammates out publicly after the game. Kinda kills team cohesiveness there. I have never seen Rodgers be anything but diplomatic. He plays the press the way he plays his guitar and if you've ever heard him play...

He far surpasses Rodgers in head size though. I'm waiting for his inevitable Pep Boys endorsements.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Neither Brady or Brees has Rodgers' arm.

Agreed. When you combine arm strength + accuracy + ability to throw on the run, I'd rank Rodgers as the best in the game. If it were just arm strength + accuracy, it's close between him and Manning.

[MJZiggy]

He far surpasses Rodgers in head size though. I'm waiting for his inevitable Pep Boys endorsements.

Why not? He's endorsed everyone else.

[RashanGary]

To quote Harvey Wallbangers, "Aaron Rodgers is good." We could leave it at that and it would be a perfectly reasonable summary of Rodgers to this point.

I'll add my part though, "He has the start of a HOF career." Length of career, production numbers, total rings and/or MVP's will be primary reasons if he gets in. Good luck, AR.

[Brandon494]

Not only will Rodgers be in the HOF one day but I think he'll end up being the greatest QB to ever play in Green Bay. The main reason I feel this way is the guys pure talent but the reason why I'm so sure of it is stability he'll have while being a Packer. We know McCarthy isnt going to pull a Mike Holgrem and jump ship. Our top playmakers are still young except for Driver, which is a position we have good depth. Our offensive line is pretty much set for the next couple years if Sherrod plans out. Also I know it lacked last season but look out for our running game this up coming season wiith Grant, Starks, and Green all sharing time. A huge upgrade over Jackson, Kuhn, and Nance if you ask me. I also believe we got two steals in the Randall Cobb and DJ Williams which only gives Rodgers more weapons in this already offense. Damn it feels good to be a Packers fan right now.

[RashanGary]

Not only will Rodgers be in the HOF one day but I think he'll end up being the greatest QB to ever play in Green Bay. The main reason I feel this way is the guys pure talent but the reason why I'm so sure of it is stability he'll have while being a Packer. We know McCarthy isnt going to pull a Mike Holgrem and jump ship. Our top playmakers are still young except for Driver, which is a position we have good depth. Our offensive line is pretty much set for the next couple years if Sherrod plans out. Also I know it lacked last season but look out for our running game this up coming season wiith Grant, Starks, and Green all sharing time. A huge upgrade over Jackson, Kuhn, and Nance if you ask me. I also believe we got two steals in the Randall Cobb and DJ Williams which only gives Rodgers more weapons in this already offense. Damn it feels good to be a Packers fan right now.

Well, you're out on a few limbs there, but I like it. Everything you said makes sense to me. Rodgers being great and stable, MM probably being her long term, playmakers being young, running backs improving, OL looking better for the long term than we thought possible just two years ago and I agree with you on Cobb and Williams, I like their skillsets and attitudes (not just athletic ability, but actually football skill and athletic ability.)

Oh, for the record, I LOVE Alex Green. I have my money on him being a superstar.

[retailguy]

We know McCarthy isnt going to pull a Mike Holgrem and jump ship.

How do "we" know this? I sure don't. For all I know, McCarthy is sitting outside Lambeau with an "On Strike" sign right now.

Damn it feels good to be a Packers fan right now.

This - I can agree with. I'm not sure it gets any better than this, but ask me after next years Super Bowl!

[MJZiggy]

How do "we" know this? I sure don't. For all I know, McCarthy is sitting outside Lambeau with an "On Strike" sign right now.



This - I can agree with. I'm not sure it gets any better than this, but ask me after next years Super Bowl!

I will agree with this when these morons quit bickering about $$ and get back to playing football. My worry is that we're all set to make a good run again and they're gonna screw it up somehow.

[bobblehead]

Haha....what were we talking about?

You said you don't remember 11-5....it was like....one season before we won the super bowl.

[bobblehead]

Work Ethic - Manning's middle name.
Durability - Manning hasn't missed any games, Rodgers has and is an ongoing concussion risk
Leadership - I think Rodgers is a great leader, but to have him a clear cut #1 is more than I'd do. Ziggy's right, Manning throws teammates under a bus, but he's gotten better
Arm - Brady, Brees
Legs - Vick, by a mile.

Maybe JH's posts was no QB demonstrated the combination, that I can support. One parameter that's missing is accuracy. I think Rodgers is close to #1 there, too. But this is a discussion about Canton. Rodgers has been a Godsend to a fan base that feared the worst. But Canton? He needs at least 2 league MVPs IMHO plus his numbers.

And heaven forbid if the weapons on offense becomes mediocre.

I want to play this game, seems like fun:

Durability: Rodgers achilles, many ahead of him. Concussions are a concern and he has been hurt replacing Favre.
Leadership: I put Roders and Brady at a tie for #1. Both are so cool under fire. Both seem to lead by example and get the most out of teammates. Being really good factors into leadership as well...both are.
Arm: Brady is as accurate, not as strong. Vick, Cutler and Stafford are stronger, but not nearly as accurate. Complete arm, I rate Rodgers #1.
Legs: Vick is #1 Rodgers is #2. Not a clear cut #3 that can actually play the position well.
Work ethic: So hard for the fans to judge, but based on Rodgers steady improvement and dedication to MM's QB school and film study I can't rate anyone ahead of him based on what I have seen.
Head: Brady is #1 again. 4? picks this season? Crazy numbers. He is just so smart in disecting the D. I would put Rodgers equal to Manning and Brees at #2 with Rodgers being more clutch.

If he stays healthy he is a surefire HOFer. I think he will be smarter with his melon from here on out, and hopefully we have put a solid OL in front of him and it won't be an issue.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Legs: Vick is #1 Rodgers is #2. Not a clear cut #3 that can actually play the position well.

I agree with most of what you said, but I'd say Josh Freeman plays the position well. He'd be 2a with Rodgers being 2b.

[Brandon494]

How do "we" know this? I sure don't. For all I know, McCarthy is sitting outside Lambeau with an "On Strike" sign

Holgrem reason for leaving is that he wanted complete control including GM duties. McCarthy is not that type of guy and knows how good he has it Green Bay. Him and Ted also seem to get along great with each other. As long as ARod is playing QB I don't see Mike going anywhere.

[Tarlam!]

Holgrem reason for leaving is that he wanted complete control including GM duties. McCarthy is not that type of guy and knows how good he has it Green Bay. Him and Ted also seem to get along great with each other. As long as ARod is playing QB I don't see Mike going anywhere.

Plus he married a Green Bay MILF. He's said, he feels "home". He's getting a street named after him that his kid, born in Green Bay, will cruise. I was more worried about TT leaving until he re-upped. I say he stays another 3 years, then he calls it a career. Think of of the draft damage he can do in 3 years!