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  • #46
    Harv, did you just do to Newton what Silverstein did to Rodgers and McCarthy last year? Clutch, defined by drives in the 4th quarter to take the lead for the win, depend very much on having a defense.

    Cincinnati's offensive line is better all around, skill position players aside. DeAngelo Stewart doesn't help much if you can't run block. Carolina's offensive line is ranked 18th in the run game and 17th in pass protection. Cincinnati is 10th in the run game and 6th in pass pro. Average per carry doesn't tell you much if they are always short of first downs.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #47
      To vote for a QB for ORotY he would have to lead his team to the playoffs, or at least be in a position where he could secure a playoff spot with some sequence of events in week 17. Otherwise, I'd look for an offensive lineman to vote for.
      </delurk>

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      • #48
        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        Harv, did you just do to Newton what Silverstein did to Rodgers and McCarthy last year? Clutch, defined by drives in the 4th quarter to take the lead for the win, depend very much on having a defense.
        I was just going to say something to that effect when I saw your post. Even if the other team leaves you 40 seconds to score you are still a choker.

        Say, I think it's 16 games in a row without a comeback victory!
        But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

        -Tim Harmston

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        • #49
          Okay, I'm bumping this to point out how much of a complete moron I am. Cam Newton had a historic rookie season. I never saw this coming. He's offensive rookie of the year hands down.
          - Once again, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.

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          • #50


            Good read on Cam becoming the next big star in the NFL....the next Jamarcus Russell my ass

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            • #51
              BF obaloo, I also think Cam deserves it, but here is an article to stir the pot:

              NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year: Andy Dalton a Lock with Win Against Ravens

              Andy Dalton is having an outstanding rookie season under center for the Cincinnati Bengals. If Dalton and the Bengals defeat the Baltimore Ravens Sunday and secure a playoff berth, Dalton should be the surefire Offensive Rookie of the Year.

              Many will argue that Cam Newton of the Carolina Panthers is a more deserving candidate. The same folks will argue that OROTY is an individual award, but that hasn’t always been the case in history.
              Goes on to say:

              Regardless of who wins the award one thing is for sure—both are equally deserving. If Dalton and the Bengals win Sunday and make the postseason that should go a long way toward solidifying Dalton as the OROTY.
              Andy Dalton is having an outstanding rookie season under center for the Cincinnati Bengals . If Dalton and the Bengals defeat the Baltimore Ravens Sunday and secure a playoff berth, Dalton should be the surefire Offensive Rookie of the Year...

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              • #52
                Cam probably deserves it, although if Dalton can beat the Ravens and get the Bengals into the postseason I think that is just as impressive as anything Cam has done.

                Who cares if Cam runs for 100 TDs...if his team doesn't make the postseason compared to another rookie who did lead his team there.
                It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                • #53
                  It's the bleacherreport...enough said. That article was written by a Bengals fan.

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                  • #54
                    And the only reason Dalton has a chance at the playoff is because of the Bengals defense. I still have to laugh at people who are trying to take away the OROY award from Cam with the Dalton argument. Yes Dalton is having a great season but get the out of here with that garbage, Cam is having possibly the greatest season EVER by a rookie.

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                    • #55


                      Good article by Peter King on Aarons as the MVP and Cam as the OROY.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                        It's the bleacherreport...enough said. That article was written by a Bengals fan.
                        Ridiculous! If CM isn't a unanimous vote, something is wrong with NFL observers.

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                        • #57
                          Dalton played well enough to win it most other years. Not this year. No way.

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                          • #58
                            nope...it's cam. he's terrific. rg III is going to be something else too.

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                            • #59
                              Pretty hard to argue against Newton as OFOY at this point....what Dalton has done is pretty impressive especially if the Bengals beat the Ravens but Newton is going to be the next NFL poster boy unless he gets hurt or really gets stupid.
                              C.H.U.D.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                                Good read on Cam becoming the next big star in the NFL....the next Jamarcus Russell my ass
                                Last OROY QB was Sam Bradford May still work out. Matt Ryan. He seems to be pretty good. The one before him was Vince Young. Nuff said on him.

                                Obsiously, the QB can't do it all, so if CM doesn't get the supporting cast, he may be another Bradford. A coaching change has been predicted and that won't help his cause.

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