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The "truth" is generally never known in these cases.
The idea that she fell down and had an injury serious enough to go the hospital raises a red flag for me.
She now claims it was a "misunderstanding". Always gotta look at who has the most to lose? He gets charged and she loses her "man" and her meal ticket.
My 2 cents.....about a year ago, as part of my job duties, I was forced (yeah not thrilled with it) to teach a women's batterer's education program. This is for the women that have been convicted of a domestic abuse/assault. Generally have 10-15 women in the class and it's open ended so we get new members every month. I'm not exaggerating when I say this.....after reading police reports and gaining background information, in the 1 year I've been teaching the class I can only think of 4, maybe 5 women that really belonged in there. The rest were victims of domestic violence and just happened to fight back that time. It really is a sad, sad situation.
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Mjziggy and pugger,
Your attitudes about this are such bullshit. Yes if he hit her he should be in big trouble. But you two think because Walden happens to have a set between his legs instead of his shoulders he is guilty. Have you not read the personal examples given by some posters here?? If some dumb drunk bitch wants to get crazy and go off is a guy suppose to let her? You asked for equality well guess what sugar you can have it. That means she needs to go to jail too now since she said he didn't hit her. If he did and she is covering that is her fuck up. That hand injury is pretty fucking telling. She fell on her own and ate it or she swung, he blocked it and she fell from her own force. Either way as it stands now you both owe him an apology at the moment.
Or you can pull a suh and live in LaLa land.
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You can fuck your hand up easy just by punching a wall or door. If he had hit this hoodrat hard enough to cut her they would have known. Sounds more like a bumped your head cut.Originally posted by smuggler View PostFrom what I read, her most serious injury was to her hand. She also had a cut on her head. Pretty curious injuries. Jury's still out, but I'm very curious as to the specifics.
Damn I hopes he dumps her once all the charges are dropped.
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I would say a good cop is gonna' know what the real story is. A GOOD cop.Originally posted by GrnBay007 View PostThe "truth" is generally never known in these cases.
The idea that she fell down and had an injury serious enough to go the hospital raises a red flag for me.
She now claims it was a "misunderstanding". Always gotta look at who has the most to lose? He gets charged and she loses her "man" and her meal ticket.
My 2 cents.....about a year ago, as part of my job duties, I was forced (yeah not thrilled with it) to teach a women's batterer's education program. This is for the women that have been convicted of a domestic abuse/assault. Generally have 10-15 women in the class and it's open ended so we get new members every month. I'm not exaggerating when I say this.....after reading police reports and gaining background information, in the 1 year I've been teaching the class I can only think of 4, maybe 5 women that really belonged in there. The rest were victims of domestic violence and just happened to fight back that time. It really is a sad, sad situation.
You gotta know what to ask and establish rapport and really pay attention to what is going on.
Like Freud said: "Eyes to see, ears to hear."
IMO, EW's gonna' be ok. Charges probably won't be filed, anger management courses, couples counseling, a private Come-to-Jesus conversation with Stubby and Greene. Like Mad suggests, maybe dump the GF, clearly not the best relationship. Maybe some sanction from the League, maybe.
IMO
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Probably a little late for the good cop to figure it out. They will have their stories in sync soon, if not already.
Problematic for me is that the DA, after reports to the contrary, is stating that SHE called the authorities, 3 hours after the incident and being treated for her injuries. Other reports had her injuries reported by the clinic/hospital. And after changing her story, there isn't going to be much to go on unless they trip up on a significant fact or there is some physical evidence.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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It's inevitably such a mess when these things happen. The simple fact of the matter is, of course, that women are far more often on the shitty end of it then guys are. But that sure doesn't mean you can paint every situation with the same brush, which is unfortunately what it's easiest for the police to do. Profiling, right?Originally posted by MadtownPacker View PostMjziggy and pugger,
Your attitudes about this are such bullshit. Yes if he hit her he should be in big trouble. But you two think because Walden happens to have a set between his legs instead of his shoulders he is guilty. Have you not read the personal examples given by some posters here?? If some dumb drunk bitch wants to get crazy and go off is a guy suppose to let her? You asked for equality well guess what sugar you can have it. That means she needs to go to jail too now since she said he didn't hit her. If he did and she is covering that is her fuck up. That hand injury is pretty fucking telling. She fell on her own and ate it or she swung, he blocked it and she fell from her own force. Either way as it stands now you both owe him an apology at the moment.
Or you can pull a suh and live in LaLa land.
It sure is crappy when someone is on the other end though. Different situation, but look at the stories that woman told about Starr. Took him a while to sort his way out of that mess.--
Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...
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That's what we hope for....in a perfect world. Problem is when you are dealing with this type of situation/people they are often master's of manipulation. I'm not saying this to reflect this particular situation, but in general...most times.Originally posted by George Cumby View PostI would say a good cop is gonna' know what the real story is. A GOOD cop.
You gotta know what to ask and establish rapport and really pay attention to what is going on.
Bottom line is something happened. Lets hope they can get it fixed...for both their sakes.
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100% concur.Originally posted by GrnBay007 View PostThat's what we hope for....in a perfect world. Problem is when you are dealing with this type of situation/people they are often master's of manipulation. I'm not saying this to reflect this particular situation, but in general...most times.
Bottom line is something happened. Lets hope they can get it fixed...for both their sakes.
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How the hell do you know she just fell down or tripped? Were you there? Why the anger here? It sounds like you have some issues about women. A lot of times a victim of domestic violence isn't going to be truthful to police because A. they don't want their abuser in jail because they still care about him - for some reason I'll never undestand or B. because if they do tell the violence will escalate once the abuser returns from jail.Originally posted by MadtownPacker View PostMjziggy and pugger,
Your attitudes about this are such bullshit. Yes if he hit her he should be in big trouble. But you two think because Walden happens to have a set between his legs instead of his shoulders he is guilty. Have you not read the personal examples given by some posters here?? If some dumb drunk bitch wants to get crazy and go off is a guy suppose to let her? You asked for equality well guess what sugar you can have it. That means she needs to go to jail too now since she said he didn't hit her. If he did and she is covering that is her fuck up. That hand injury is pretty fucking telling. She fell on her own and ate it or she swung, he blocked it and she fell from her own force. Either way as it stands now you both owe him an apology at the moment.
Or you can pull a suh and live in LaLa land.
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I believe his point is "How the hell do you know she didn't fall down or trip?" You were awfully quick to proclaim him guilty and lump him in with a bunch of idiots. (NO facts at this point)Originally posted by Pugger View PostHow the hell do you know she just fell down or tripped? Were you there? Why the anger here? It sounds like you have some issues about women. A lot of times a victim of domestic violence isn't going to be truthful to police because A. they don't want their abuser in jail because they still care about him - for some reason I'll never undestand or B. because if they do tell the violence will escalate once the abuser returns from jail.
As a man, I fully realize that the majority of assaults are men doing it to women. But that doesn't mean that ALL men are guilty. Truth be told, I have to say that yours and Ziggys posts pissed me off too. I know Ziggy personally, and I respect her, but it still bothered me.
One of my biggest fears is being accused of something I haven't done (and knowing the deck is stacked against me in proving otherwise). Because of that, I absolutely refused to take the babysitter home after we returned when my kids were little. I always made my wife do it. Similarly, when I shuttle kids around, my kids MUST come with me when taking their friends home. Why? Because lots of people hold "opinions" like you illustrated in this thread.
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