Erik Walden arrested?

[pbmax]

OH, let's be done with this.

[pbmax]

Laugh all you want PB. It isn't really funny. Too many folks have had their lives ruined by this type of stuff. Lots have been guilty, but because of that, some haven't been and have still been judged guilty.

I don't have consent forms at the house, but truthfully, I'm very careful as to who makes it into the door. As paranoid as that may sound, that's the world we live in, as Scott Campbell says, and that's true. I disagree with Scott's premise that we just need to accept that, but, until some are willing to speak up and challenge the feel good rhetoric, it is what it is, I guess.

Regarding my original point, I do find it hilarious that Pugger berates Suh in the "what should he get thread", but when MTP challenges her regarding her statements in this thread, instead of saying - Gee you might have a point - she dug her heels in, just as Suh did... He's getting as much criticism for his response and lack of apology as he did for the original act. People are using his "lack of remorse" as a reason for hitting him harder. To me at least, the parallels are kind of funny.

But I guess it's funnier to focus on how I protect myself and my family from this BS run amok than it is to talk about Suh or Walden while tempering judgement until the process works - for better or worse. Apologies for derailing the thread. I'm done now.

Well, I should have gone with my original idea and not posted a response. Damn that Rand. But since we are here:

I do take the concerns you mentioned seriously and as I said, your actions are consistent with what many legitimate organizations do to protect themselves. The laughing icon was for Rand's invocation of the classic leading question. Your steps are reasonable and the subject of your concern are certainly worthy of protection.

I do not share your concern over the likelihood of the risk, however. While the costs and damage of false and/or malicious charges are obvious, the overwhelming number of interactions without a hitch argue against such an occurrence. In fact, they argue that there are other circumstances involved. Now, that would be cold comfort should it happen, but in life, one must choose where to spend time and energy and concerns must be prioritized.

Its an interesting question, as I wonder if no good faith is expected, would any benefit of the doubt ever be extended?

As for the consent form crack, that was a poor choice and I apologize. Mostly, I just wanted to call you a bureaucrat, but as Rand's post indicates, I seem to be suggesting something else entirely, when that was not my intention. So, consider that joke withdrawn. I think we can discuss Walden, argue amongst ourselves and pick fights without losing the thread, but my post might not have been the best example.

As for Walden, there is something else going on here. No one knows what happened (as opposed to Suh) and we are free to invest the story with whatever motivations, emotions and other suppositions we can use to supply an explanation. But if we knew either person, or had access to video of the altercation, then the content of the conversation would change. I don't think anyone (well, most of them anyway) truly believes they know what really happened, but presented with the facts of the case, most minds would be capable of reconsidering their position.

[mraynrand]

There are no consent forms that cover statutory babysitter car rides.

What about sleepovers?

Pervert! Just take the babysitter home, willya?

[mraynrand]

Well, I should have gone with my original idea and not posted a response. Damn that Rand.

It's getting so a man can't talk to his own shrub around here anymore!

[LP]

Article in JSO today.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/packers-walden-released-on-bond-kb37ola-134650588.html

I found this tidbit quite interesting. Maybe even sexist.

"If this is a case where it's an argument where she struck him and he pushed her away, there's no charge. If it's a case where they're arguing and he pushes her, initiates the contact and that causes injury then it's a different situation.

Makes it sound like she can start something without any risk of getting hauled off.

Also, if there are any shysters on here, could you please explain why you have to post bond if you're not charged?

[MadScientist]

Anyone else think his apology raises some suspicion that he deserves the arrest and all penalties that go with it?
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/134709158.html

Maybe it is just me, but it doesn't sound too good. The details on Cook's case were worse, but I don't see Walden playing soon, or perhaps at all for the Packers, without fully ceding the moral high ground to the Vikings.

[Scott Campbell]

Not really. I think he's apologizing for the distraction.

[mission]

Anyone else think his apology raises some suspicion that he deserves the arrest and all penalties that go with it?
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/134709158.html

Maybe it is just me, but it doesn't sound too good. The details on Cook's case were worse, but I don't see Walden playing soon, or perhaps at all for the Packers, without fully ceding the moral high ground to the Vikings.

I don't see it at all. He's apologizing for getting locked up and bringing negative attention to a 11-0 team, with almost no negative attention to this point in the season. He *did* get arrested hence his response to maybe not playing against the Giants.

[Freak Out]

Was she hurt during the make up sex?

[Joemailman]

The Packers have a tough decision to make. If they play him this week and he is then charged with felony battery next week, it doesn't look good. My guess is they sit him this week until his legal situation is clarified.

[MadtownPacker]

Was she hurt during the make up sex?

Hahaha!

Did you read the comment section on the article? Looks like Aynrand posted there.

I had a girlfriend that was 5'3" and 105 lbs and when she got ticked off she would start throwing punches. At first I just thought it was funny but it got old pretty fast. But I pretty much knew that even pushing her off me too hard and her getting hurt a cop would look at her than look at me and I'd be going to jail. So usually I just left but one time that wasn't an option so I spanked her and that worked, she was so embarrassed after that it kind of chilled her out. Sometimes I miss that little minx but not too often!

[MadtownPacker]

right on, bros before hoes.

Why not? Isnt that just what they do anyways? Remember we gotta be fair you joto.

[pbmax]

Anyone else think his apology raises some suspicion that he deserves the arrest and all penalties that go with it?
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/134709158.html

Maybe it is just me, but it doesn't sound too good. The details on Cook's case were worse, but I don't see Walden playing soon, or perhaps at all for the Packers, without fully ceding the moral high ground to the Vikings.

Going to need strippers, a boat and a trip to the Lion's Den to even get close. Google in a safe environment free of the under age and your spouse.

[Scott Campbell]

The Packers have a tough decision to make. If they play him this week and he is then charged with felony battery next week, it doesn't look good. My guess is they sit him this week until his legal situation is clarified.

I wondered about how the Union would react to a guy that hasn't been charged being suspended.

If he says he didn't do it, and she says he didn't do it, then what are the grounds for a suspension?

[pbmax]

Article in JSO today.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/packers-walden-released-on-bond-kb37ola-134650588.html

I found this tidbit quite interesting. Maybe even sexist.

"If this is a case where it's an argument where she struck him and he pushed her away, there's no charge. If it's a case where they're arguing and he pushes her, initiates the contact and that causes injury then it's a different situation.

Makes it sound like she can start something without any risk of getting hauled off.
...

Except for the fact that she is the one who is hurt and called the authorities. You could reverse that statement if Walden suffered the injuries and called the police.