Erik Walden arrested?

[Scott Campbell]

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One of my biggest fears is being accused of something I haven't done (and knowing the deck is stacked against me in proving otherwise). Because of that, I absolutely refused to take the babysitter home after we returned when my kids were little. I always made my wife do it. Similarly, when I shuttle kids around, my kids MUST come with me when taking their friends home. Why? Because lots of people hold "opinions" like you illustrated in this thread.

Harlan's reputation has ruined it for the rest of us.



But seriously, I have no idea what happened with Walden, and won't presume anything, other than that something happened.

I get that the rush to judgement pisses you off, but people have biases. That's just how it is.

[Little Whiskey]

, but people have biases. That's just how it is.

like everyone from Utah has 7 wives, every mexican drives a lowrider, every redneck has a gunrack and Skinbasket enjoys all forms of gay porn?

[mmmdk]

Ask yourselves this; what would Bogart have said?

From High Sierra.
Bogart: I wouldn't give you two cents for a dame without a temper.

From Me & Bogart.
Bogart (character): I never saw a dame yet that didn't understand a good slap in the mouth or a slug from a .45

Ah, Bogart wisdom. Those were the days!

[gbgary]

like everyone from Utah has 7 wives, every mexican drives a lowrider, every redneck has a gunrack and Skinbasket enjoys all forms of gay porn?

those aren't biases, those are three stereotypes and one disturbing fact.

[MadtownPacker]

How the hell do you know she just fell down or tripped? Were you there? Why the anger here? It sounds like you have some issues about women. A lot of times a victim of domestic violence isn't going to be truthful to police because A. they don't want their abuser in jail because they still care about him - for some reason I'll never undestand or B. because if they do tell the violence will escalate once the abuser returns from jail.

I dont know just like you don't fucking know shit but as it stands the broad is saying nothing happened now. Guess what she was there and DOES know what happened. So what do you have to say about that?? Or do you just wish to continue you ignoring it and proceed with more bra burning?? You don't know a fucking thing about me but I will tell you this, I don't hit women. My father instilled that in me by words and example. With that said why should the man be assumed guilty because he is a male??

The only issue I have with women like you who expect men to ask how high before they jump. You wanted equality, fucking deal with it.

[Harlan Huckleby]

the incident raises a red flag about Walden. I read that women are more often the perpetrators in domestic abuse, often smacking the sleeping rogue, but in this situation, its hard to imagine any woman going after an nfl linebacker, even a weak side linebacker.

I'm gonna give Walden probation on this, mainly because the evidence is ambiguous, and hope it doesn't happen again.

[mraynrand]

I believe his point is "How the hell do you know she didn't fall down or trip?" You were awfully quick to proclaim him guilty and lump him in with a bunch of idiots. (NO facts at this point)

As a man, I fully realize that the majority of assaults are men doing it to women. But that doesn't mean that ALL men are guilty. Truth be told, I have to say that yours and Ziggys posts pissed me off too. I know Ziggy personally, and I respect her, but it still bothered me.

One of my biggest fears is being accused of something I haven't done (and knowing the deck is stacked against me in proving otherwise). Because of that, I absolutely refused to take the babysitter home after we returned when my kids were little. I always made my wife do it. Similarly, when I shuttle kids around, my kids MUST come with me when taking their friends home. Why? Because lots of people hold "opinions" like you illustrated in this thread.

So when did you stop beating your wife?

[pbmax]

the incident raises a red flag about Walden. I read that women are more often the perpetrators in domestic abuse, often smacking the sleeping rogue, but in this situation, its hard to imagine any woman going after an nfl linebacker, even a weak side linebacker.

I'm gonna give Walden probation on this, mainly because the evidence is ambiguous, and hope it doesn't happen again.

I am going to throw the challenge flag and ask for a source on this one. Not saying it can't be, as men would even be more reluctant to report and, numerically anyway, less likely to be injured unless they are dating Amy Fisher or a figure skater.

[pbmax]

So when did you stop beating your wife?

I was going to give RG some grief over his post, but then it occurred to me that in every instance of organized children's activities, that practice, of never being alone with children other than your own, is standard practice.

I think not taking the babysitter home might be a bit of a reach, but it never hurts to be careful. Its also possible RG is a bureaucrat at heart.

RG, you don't have any blank consent forms at the house, do you?

[mraynrand]

RG, you don't have any blank consent forms at the house, do you?

There are no consent forms that cover statutory babysitter car rides.

[Harlan Huckleby]

When I googled "female domestic violence", a statistic was repeated that 40% of reported domestic abuse is by women. I have heard from somebody in men's rights movement that the actual level of violent femmes is higher than males, but who knows what truth is.

[mraynrand]

One of my biggest fears is being accused of something I haven't done (and knowing the deck is stacked against me in proving otherwise). Because of that, I absolutely refused to take the babysitter home

Retail: "Really, I'll have the wife give you that ride home."



You know, Retail, now that I think about it, you really are a bigoted, sexist, homophobe. Who are you to assume that your babysitter is a hetero? I would suggest that you and your wife drive the babysitter home together, but you're probably pedophilic bisexual swingers too. If I were that babysitter, I would be fearing for my life.

[retailguy]

I was going to give RG some grief over his post, but then it occurred to me that in every instance of organized children's activities, that practice, of never being alone with children other than your own, is standard practice.

I think not taking the babysitter home might be a bit of a reach, but it never hurts to be careful. Its also possible RG is a bureaucrat at heart.

RG, you don't have any blank consent forms at the house, do you?

Laugh all you want PB. It isn't really funny. Too many folks have had their lives ruined by this type of stuff. Lots have been guilty, but because of that, some haven't been and have still been judged guilty.

I don't have consent forms at the house, but truthfully, I'm very careful as to who makes it into the door. As paranoid as that may sound, that's the world we live in, as Scott Campbell says, and that's true. I disagree with Scott's premise that we just need to accept that, but, until some are willing to speak up and challenge the feel good rhetoric, it is what it is, I guess.

Regarding my original point, I do find it hilarious that Pugger berates Suh in the "what should he get thread", but when MTP challenges her regarding her statements in this thread, instead of saying - Gee you might have a point - she dug her heels in, just as Suh did... He's getting as much criticism for his response and lack of apology as he did for the original act. People are using his "lack of remorse" as a reason for hitting him harder. To me at least, the parallels are kind of funny.

But I guess it's funnier to focus on how I protect myself and my family from this BS run amok than it is to talk about Suh or Walden while tempering judgement until the process works - for better or worse. Apologies for derailing the thread. I'm done now.

[mraynrand]

Regarding my original point, I do find it hilarious that Pugger berates Suh in the "what should he get thread", but when MTP challenges her regarding her statements in this thread, instead of saying - Gee you might have a point - she dug her heels in, just as Suh did... He's getting as much criticism for his response and lack of apology as he did for the original act. People are using his "lack of remorse" as a reason for hitting him harder. To me at least, the parallels are kind of funny.

Things might be different if Walden's altercation happened on national television.

[mraynrand]

But I guess it's funnier to focus on how I protect myself and my family from this BS run amok than it is to talk about Suh or Walden while tempering judgement until the process works - for better or worse. Apologies for derailing the thread. I'm done now.

We can do all at the same time. Well, at least some of us can.