Studs and Duds - Week 17 New Year's Day!

[MJZiggy]

Funny stuff....I missed this.

Me too. Hoping it hits youtube sometime soon.

[MadtownPacker]

Damn I didnt see that either. Best tackle of the game!

[MadtownPacker]

Play is under review. Let watch from a different angle!!!

[KYPack]

jones had one nice play, i guess that's better then what the other guys did. except so'oto, he had a nice sack that was taken away by a penalty or something like that.

other then jones one play he was a JAG

I think the JSO love for Jones was based on this principle...

Jones was mainly just a guy, but he was just a guy in position. Walden and Zombie have had a lot of trouble with that very simple defensive idea this season.

[Tarlam!]

Walden and Zombie have had a lot of trouble with that very simple defensive idea this season.

Would you help me understand, what the midea is and why you consider simple? What would be a tough assignment for them by comparison?

[KYPack]

Would you help me understand, what the midea is and why you consider simple? What would be a tough assignment for them by comparison?

The position that we are trying to get filled is ROLB. The Right outside linebacker functions like a DE in some sets and covers in other situations. The problem we have had at that spot is contain. As an outside backer, you must turn the wide play back inside, contain the offense so your help can tackle the ball carrier. You must fight, kick, scratch, or claw your way to stay wide and turn the play on a sweep back inside. In the Chiefs game, Walden lost contain on 3 very glaring occasions. So, they benched his ass and put in Zombo. Zombo frittered away his big chance by proceeding to blow contain on two plays. This caused poor Dom Capers to tear his wig off.

We don't have a ROLB that we can trust. By we, I mean the other 10 guys on D. When that happens, it screws up your defense. Everybody starts hedging and cheating their position to try and patch the hole on the wide side. We need a JAG. A guy who will keep contain, cover properly, and maybe blitz and get home once in awhile.

It's easy if you simply do your job. My impression of Zombo is he tries too hard. Walden? A crazy ass airhead. The other guys? too green. Out of the whole lot, I'd go with Jones. Jones is never going to the Pro Bowl, but I think he knows the job. He was always in position Sunday, if not too spectacularly. Give me a guy who will be in the right spot over a guy who go maverick on ya, & take himself out of the play.

I'll post more after I watch the replay tonite.

It's cool. We've got two weeks to get it right. I know all the defensive assistants read Packer Rats. We'll be able to tell 'em what to do before the first game.

[Tarlam!]

Thanks, KY. Really appreciate your coaching.

[Fritz]

Well, if Dom and Company are worth their salt, they will read KY's assessment and promptly put Jonesy on the first team at ROLB and instruct him to just do his damn job and not try to freelance.

I am disappointed in Zombo, but I think KY's hit it on the head here, too: he's trying to hard to make a splash, to get his job back. He's forgotten, it seems, that the core principle is to do your job. The 3-4, or the version Dom runs, seems predicated more than most defenses on each player doing a particular job, which may not be swarming to the ball. Personally, I find it a bit frustrating to read and see that the job of the defensive line is (mostly) to take up space and eat up blockers and not get after the ball. But that's the system, so if you're in it you've got to bite your tongue and fight your urges and do your job. I guess if you're Jones or Howard Green or Ryan Pickett or AJ Hawk you just do your job so the playmakers like Woodson and Matthews can do their thing.

[Guiness]

It's easy if you simply do your job. My impression of Zombo is he tries too hard. Walden? A crazy ass airhead. The other guys? too green. Out of the whole lot, I'd go with Jones. Jones is never going to the Pro Bowl, but I think he knows the job. He was always in position Sunday, if not too spectacularly. Give me a guy who will be in the right spot over a guy who go maverick on ya, & take himself out of the play.

I'll post more after I watch the replay tonite.

It's cool. We've got two weeks to get it right. I know all the defensive assistants read Packer Rats. We'll be able to tell 'em what to do before the first game.

Want to hear your impression after the replay. I worry about Jones getting washed out even if he is in position.

[hoosier]

The clip of Jones's tackle can still be seen on the JSO Packer blog. It looks like the NFLs legal dept had it taken down from youtube for copyright.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/packers.html

[pbmax]

Are Walden and Zombo having more trouble in nickel than in base? The contain assignment isn't different, but the blocking combos are.

[mraynrand]

In the Chiefs game, Walden lost contain on 3 very glaring occasions. So, they benched his ass and put in Zombo. Zombo frittered away his big chance by proceeding to blow contain on two plays. This caused poor Dom Capers to tear his wig off.

Begs the question: who's dumber?

[KYPack]

I watched the game Sunday on a laptop with about a 5' window. Finished the NFLN replay on the big screen Dy and learned a few things:

- I was dead wrong about Jones playing effectively at ROLB. He played the left side exclusively on Sunday and is listed at back-up LOLB on the dpth chart. He played OK in spots, not as well as I saw it in Jellyvision on the laptop.

Zombo and Walden played most of the game at ROLB with Zombo getting the majority of the plays.

I'm sure the blistered those two about the contain issue. They both paid close attention to holding the edge. In fact, they both over-compensated to keep contain. Zombo stayed with the bull rush move when rushing the passer. Presumably, he wanted to keep a balanced position and not allow a screen or draw to either side. Zombo seems to play stiff and real upright.

Walden also watched the edge like a hawk, not wanting to catch another ass chewing for blowing contain again. These two had much better positioning than their previous debacle in KC, but...

They didn't make any freaking plays! they were there, filled properly, but it was like we had 10and a half men on the field. We simply have to get more production from that spot & who knows what the answer is.

So'oto played both sides and did make several nice plays, showing good aggression and some savvy. But the kid is way too green to trust with a play-off start.

[Joemailman]

Jones was the starting ROLB in practice today. http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...136707593.html

[KYPack]

Jones was the starting ROLB in practice today. http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...136707593.html

Good lookin' out, Joe.

That could be the answer to the musical question, "Who's the ROLB"?

Walden and Zombo sure weren't the anwer Sunday.

Zombo plays like he hasn't recovered from his injuries or something. God, he plays stiff. Walden's head is still screwed up from the tiff w/ the GF and the lost weekend at the gray bar hotel.