LeRoy: Brett Better Than Aaron

[mraynrand]

He's still got a ways to go before you can seriously have that discussion.

all evidence to the contrary!

[mraynrand]

Collins is better than Butler

[Packers4Glory]

all evidence to the contrary!

yeah. I guess it is a what have you done for me lately world. Fave had a billion seasons here. A-rod's career is just entering his prime. I hope that he has a career that surpasses BF. That only benefits us fans if that happens because it means we will have a really fun and competitive team to watch for several seasons.

[mraynrand]

I was mostly suggesting that people are fully prepared to have the debate over who's better. I just hope it doesn't get nasty!

[HarveyWallbangers]

This is beating a dead horse, but IMHO Rodgers is better right now than Favre at his best. Supporting cast includes RBs, TEs, OL--along with WRs. Favre did have Sharpe, Brooks, Jackson, Chmura, Freeman, Driver, Walker, Ahman Green as an elite RB for a number of years, perhaps the best OL in football in the early to mid 2000s. The Pack went 15-1 (the best in team history)--despite below average RBs and OL and an average defense.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I couldn't care less if he has the longevity that Favre had. He won't. I'll take a few more years of elite play and one or more Super Bowl victories. Would you take 5 more years of elite play out of Rodgers and another Super Bowl victory or 12 more years of near elite play with no title?

[Fritz]

If you gave me a choice of Favre or Rodgers, each in his prime, I'd take Rodgers every time. Whether for a whole season, or for one game, I'd take Rodgers.

Put them on opposite teams playing one another, with equal defenses and equal offensive talent at other positions, and Rodgers's team will win because Brent will make more mistakes.

[Smidgeon]

I've really tried to stay out of the Favre/Rodgers battle. Very hard to compare the 2 IMO. I grew up loving Favre, and I pretty much love Rodgers as much as I once loved Favre. The biggest thing that is hard for some people is the fact the Favre was as much a "caricature" as he was an athlete for GB. He would do something in a game and people would laugh and fall more in love with him because he was just having fun and so on. Favre did some amazing things, no question, but there were many times he would make mistakes early in his career, but had an amazing defense that could make up for his mistakes. Later in his career that fact showed it's ugly face a lot. Granted he had some great years without a very good defense though. He also put up some crazy numbers without the type of talent Rodgers has right now. You can look and see Sterling Sharpe, Robert Brooks, antonio Freeman, Donald Driver...but none of them really played together at the same time. Sterling was with Brooks, but Brooks wasn't really used...then Brooks took over, and Freeman was the lesser used, than Freeman took ove and Driver was the lesser used...GB has had a nice run of #1 recievers, but never had likely 4 #1 guys on the team at one time, PLUS a pretty good TE in Finley. I mean come on, Bill Schroeder led the team as a receiver one season. The Packers running game for many years early in Favre's career were screens and dump off passes.

Now on the flip side, Rodgers is a Quarterbacks Quarterback. I would assume Rodgers could develop into a very good coach some day given his attention to detail. If Rodgers didn't walk into a situation that had Driver and Jennings year 1, it could have been a bad start for him. but Thompson has loaded this team with weapons, and doesn't care if we have 6 WR's to compete for 5 spots as long as the best 5 make it...at any position. I love Rodgers, we have to credit some of his success to the talent that's been placed around him. BUT...I don't think Brett Favre could have made some of the throws that Aaron Rodgers has made in the past year. He's been fun to watch, and I hope we can get some OL talent around him to keep him upright for many years. How many teams can say they had 2 HOF QB's play back to back and it lasted potentially 30 years? Bear fans will hate us.

Sounds to me like Favre was a little tunnel-visioned when it came to his receivers. I'm speculating because I didn't really become old enough to understand the game until a few years after the super bowl victory. Favre could make WRs because he focused on them. And when they were covered, he'd force the ball elsewhere.

That's just speculation on my part.

[Smidgeon]

say what? Favre never had offensive weapons like AR has...just say'n. lets be real. Farve had some good weapons, but he also made some crappy guys look really good, and never an offense like we have today.

Favre had Sterling Sharpe. And I'd take Sterling over every modern day WR the Packers have had--excepting maybe Lofton. While Jennings is Top 10, maybe Top 5 in the league this year and last, he's still got nothing on Sterling.

Plus, like someone else mentioned, he had Ahman Green. Pretty outstanding RB.

[mission]

I couldn't care less if he has the longevity that Favre had. He won't. I'll take a few more years of elite play and one or more Super Bowl victories. Would you take 5 more years of elite play out of Rodgers and another Super Bowl victory or 12 more years of near elite play with no title?

I'm with you. He doesn't even need more MVPs... give me another ring or two, kill it for the next 5-6 years and do what you want after you aren't the best.

Just needs a second ring and the conversation is over. Done. Finished.

[The Shadow]

If you gave me a choice of Favre or Rodgers, each in his prime, I'd take Rodgers every time. Whether for a whole season, or for one game, I'd take Rodgers.

Put them on opposite teams playing one another, with equal defenses and equal offensive talent at other positions, and Rodgers's team will win because Brent will make more mistakes.

Ditto!

[Freak Out]

If you gave me a choice of Favre or Rodgers, each in his prime, I'd take Rodgers every time. Whether for a whole season, or for one game, I'd take Rodgers.

Put them on opposite teams playing one another, with equal defenses and equal offensive talent at other positions, and Rodgers's team will win because Brent will make more mistakes.

Maybe.....Favre was a badass in his prime. We'll see how it goes for a few more years. Rodgers is just on fire though.....everything is pointing towards even more success.

[Tarlam!]

There's a reason the organization wanted nothing to do with Butler after he retired and he kept skulking about the stadium begging for something to do. The guy's a retard. A talented retard, but definitely a retard. Christ, even Edgar Bennet could get a job with the team after his playing days were over.

When the team allocated #36 to Collins, I read on JSO or the Gazette that it insulted Bertler. He honestly feels the club should retire his number apparently.

[Scott Campbell]

Hey Butler - shut the fuck up.

[King Friday]

I can't fault LeRoy here. When he played with Favre, he was a 3 time MVP...on an offense without the wall-to-wall talent that Rodgers is currently working with. Would Rodgers throw for all the yards and TDs if he was throwing to an aging Don Beebe and Andre Rison, as well as a rookie Antonio Freeman instead of Jennings, Nelson, Finley, Driver, Jones, Cobb, etc? I doubt it.

Rodgers has a chance to be more than Favre was...that is significant, because Favre is probably one of the ten best QBs of all-time. However, I can't say he's there yet...consistency and longevity speaks volumes in terms of a player's greatness. He has an incredible chance to place a huge milestone in his favor by winning a second ring and leading a team that only lost once during a season.

Personally, I choose to wait until Rodgers' career is at least 8-10 years long before I start making any real comparisons.