If they don't spend the money on Finley, will it go to better use somewhere else? If not, pay the man or the team will be worse off overall. I think they have the cap room to keep him without big sacrifices elsewhere. I would rather have them resign Finley than use the money to roll the dice on other FAs.
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I'd be willing to offer up a friendly wager that he gets more, on average, than that. I'd say he'll get more than $5m/year and probably something at or over the TE franchise number.Originally posted by ThunderDan View PostExactly, you don't tag a player with the drops.
TT and Finely's agent will work out a contract before they need to tag him. 4 years $18M."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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I think they need to keep this offense mostly in tact. I think they can do that without breaking the bank. If they let go of Driver, Clifton, and Grant, I'm assuming that it would cover what they'd need to retain Wells and Finley. Flynn will also be gone. Of course, they need to look into extending Jennings and Rodgers. Then, in the draft concentrate on DEFENSE + developmental QB and developmental OL. If a dynamic RB drops to us, we'd have to take a look at him also.Originally posted by sharpe1027 View PostIf they don't spend the money on Finley, will it go to better use somewhere else? If not, pay the man or the team will be worse off overall. I think they have the cap room to keep him without big sacrifices elsewhere. I would rather have them resign Finley than use the money to roll the dice on other FAs."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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If we get him at that level TT would have stolen Finley. TE values are going up, and this is cheap for a 25 year old top 7 TE.Originally posted by ThunderDan View PostExactly, you don't tag a player with the drops.
TT and Finely's agent will work out a contract before they need to tag him. 4 years $18M.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
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Agreed. Turnover is OK so long as you gain an advantage by letting a player go and bringing in a new player. Not signing Finley because he dropped a few passes does not improve the team. They don't want to overpay, but they have not reason to save money unless they think that they can spend it more wisely somewhere else.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostI think they need to keep this offense mostly in tact. I think they can do that without breaking the bank. If they let go of Driver, Clifton, and Grant, I'm assuming that it would cover what they'd need to retain Wells and Finley. Flynn will also be gone. Of course, they need to look into extending Jennings and Rodgers. Then, in the draft concentrate on DEFENSE + developmental QB and developmental OL. If a dynamic RB drops to us, we'd have to take a look at him also.
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(-: .... Gee.Originally posted by Upnorth View PostI say give him a very high potential contract but with half or more of the value being incentive based. Give him the oppertunity to be the highest paid TE in the league, but to do that he would need a 95% catch rate, 1200 yrds and 14 tds. I say give him a social media clause.
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Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostI think they need to keep this offense mostly in tact. I think they can do that without breaking the bank. If they let go of Driver, Clifton, and Grant, I'm assuming that it would cover what they'd need to retain Wells and Finley. Flynn will also be gone. Of course, they need to look into extending Jennings and Rodgers. Then, in the draft concentrate on DEFENSE + developmental QB and developmental OL. If a dynamic RB drops to us, we'd have to take a look at him also.
" If they let go of Driver, Clifton, and Grant," HW
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I think you speak the truth here about what may happen.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostI think they need to keep this offense mostly in tact. I think they can do that without breaking the bank. If they let go of Driver, Clifton, and Grant, I'm assuming that it would cover what they'd need to retain Wells and Finley. Flynn will also be gone. Of course, they need to look into extending Jennings and Rodgers. Then, in the draft concentrate on DEFENSE + developmental QB and developmental OL. If a dynamic RB drops to us, we'd have to take a look at him also.
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I would be stunned if Wells gets top shelf money at C. Even with Thompson's recent investments in the O line, he has not paid top dollar since Cliffy's big resigning after flirting with the Redskins.
Thompson has not seemed to mind whether the replacement is apparent on the roster or not, but being a playoff contender might shift the equation.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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95%???? Let's be real here. Even Megatron, who most think is the best WR in football had a 61% catch rate in 2011. Jordy was 71%, Jennings 66%, DD 66% and Jones 69%.Originally posted by Upnorth View PostI say give him a very high potential contract but with half or more of the value being incentive based. Give him the oppertunity to be the highest paid TE in the league, but to do that he would need a 95% catch rate, 1200 yrds and 14 tds. I say give him a social media clause.Last edited by Pugger; 01-21-2012, 12:40 PM.
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Catch, Finley, catch!
Great if a long term deal is reached; I sure want the youngster kept in Green'n'Gold.
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95% is unreal, but I said highest paid TE at that level. If he catches at 75% I am happy, just don't pay him insane amounts of money. I am looking for incentives in his contract. Realistic incentives go against the cap, unrealistic don't. Let him shoot for the moon but make him earn it. I do admit 95% is probably impossible, what do you think it should be to be top paid TE?Originally posted by Pugger View Post95%???? Let's be real here. Even Megatron, who most think is the best WR in football had a 61% catch rate in 2011. Jordy was 71%, Jennings 66%, DD 66% and Jones 69%.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
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I think Finley was above 85% last year before getting hurt. I don't remember exactly though.Originally posted by Pugger View Post95%???? Let's be real here. Even Megatron, who most think is the best WR in football had a 61% catch rate in 2011. Jordy was 71%, Jennings 66%, DD 66% and Jones 69%.No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.
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If the top WR is in the 60s then a TE who is more of a catcher than a blocker should have similar numbers. I don't think Finley should be paid top TE dollar until he shows he's worth it.Originally posted by Upnorth View Post95% is unreal, but I said highest paid TE at that level. If he catches at 75% I am happy, just don't pay him insane amounts of money. I am looking for incentives in his contract. Realistic incentives go against the cap, unrealistic don't. Let him shoot for the moon but make him earn it. I do admit 95% is probably impossible, what do you think it should be to be top paid TE?
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Depends what you mean by "catch rate", catchable balls or targeted passes. You are referring to targeted passes. I suspect Upnorth was referring to drops. A drop rate of 5% (95% catch rate of catchable balls) would be outstanding, but not completely unreal. On the other hand, a drop rate of 30%-40% (catch rate of 60%-70% of catchable balls) would be absolutely horrible.Originally posted by Pugger View Post95%???? Let's be real here. Even Megatron, who most think is the best WR in football had a 61% catch rate in 2011. Jordy was 71%, Jennings 66%, DD 66% and Jones 69%.
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