Hawk taking heat in Green Bay

[Brando19]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/22/hawk-taking-heat-in-green-bay/

Hawk isn't the player we thought he'd be when we drafted him in 2005. I watched every Packers game this year and I payed close attention to Hawk. Almost every single time he would sack the QB or make a really good play, he would look at his OWN bench and flip the bird, make a gesture, or cuss. I'm pretty sure his own teammates make fun of his play and believe Barnett should be here instead of Hawk. Is it time to cut ties with him? Is DJ Smith an upgrade? Would we get anything in a trade out of Hawk?

[mission]

Hawk is a joke.

[Brandon494]

I've been saying this since 2008 so you know where I stand.

[Bretsky]

Been a backer of Hawk for a long time and stood up for him last year and thought he was finally coming around
This year..............severe disappointment

[mmmdk]

Been a backer of Hawk for a long time and stood up for him last year and thought he was finally coming around
This year..............severe disappointment

Pretty much how I feel too!

[sheepshead]

Barnett is mentioned here and I am in a small minority of people that think he was more important to that defense then many realize. I saw it when he went down, I really had no way to know how well he healed however. While their numbers were similar I always thought Barnett was more of a factor out there considering his intangibles.

[mraynrand]

Patrick Peterson
Eric Berry
Mark Sanchez
Glenn Dorsey
Levi Brown
A.J. Hawk
Cadillac Williams
Sean Taylor
Terrance Newman
Quentin Jammer
La Dainian Tomlinson


Hawk isn't the only lousy #5 in the past decade, but look at what lousy #5s have meant to the failures of other teams as well.

Those of us who wanted Vernon Davis are vindicated. Hawk is football refuse.

[pbmax]

Barnett is mentioned here and I am in a small minority of people that think he was more important to that defense then many realize. I saw it when he went down, I really had no way to know how well he healed however. While their numbers were similar I always thought Barnett was more of a factor out there considering his intangibles.

While its not a direct reflection of Hawk vs. Barnett, its hard to argue he was better for the defense overall based on last year's performance; the D got better after he left the lineup.

[pbmax]

Funny how now the measured, calm demeanor of Hawk is now considered a liability in relation to this year's collapse. McGinn is starting to lapse into Silverstein territory here. Last year, it was the salvation of the defense.

[sheepshead]

Patrick Peterson
Eric Berry
Mark Sanchez
Glenn Dorsey
Levi Brown
A.J. Hawk
Cadillac Williams
Sean Taylor
Terrance Newman
Quentin Jammer
La Dainian Tomlinson


Hawk isn't the only lousy #5 in the past decade, but look at what lousy #5s have meant to the failures of other teams as well.

Those of us who wanted Vernon Davis are vindicated. Hawk is football refuse.

The NFL draft, that biggest overrated crap shoot in all of sports.

[Pugger]

Patrick Peterson
Eric Berry
Mark Sanchez
Glenn Dorsey
Levi Brown
A.J. Hawk
Cadillac Williams
Sean Taylor
Terrance Newman
Quentin Jammer
La Dainian Tomlinson


Hawk isn't the only lousy #5 in the past decade, but look at what lousy #5s have meant to the failures of other teams as well.

Those of us who wanted Vernon Davis are vindicated. Hawk is football refuse.

Huh?

[Tony Oday]

Still like Hawk and really there are other positions that need more help than ILB.

[mraynrand]

Huh?

there are good #5s and bad #5s. Take Sanchez - the expectation is that he takes the JETS to playoff glory, but he sucks and drags them down. Several of those other picks were/are solid pros, some are JAGs. A pro bowl caliber pick at #5 could have meant something to the Packers, but they got a turd. It happens, that's the point. But when it does, it's especially painful, because you had to suck the previous season to 'merit' that pick, and to get nothing is like a double kick in the face.

[mraynrand]

Still like Hawk and really there are other positions that need more help than ILB.

really? The guy is a waste of cellular matter, and LB is supposed to be the strength of a 3-4. Sure, maybe OLB would be more vital, but looking at the way the middle of the field was absolutely GASHED by opposing offenses, especially by TEs, AND the fact that the Packers were forced to put Matthews in coverage because Hawk sucked, AND that a cast off free agent LB is more athletic than Hawk and can actually intercept passes, MIGHT just suggest that Hawk is a far bigger turd sandwich than you think, and that he didn't look so bad specifically because they covered for him.

[mraynrand]

Funny how now the measured, calm demeanor of Hawk is now considered a liability in relation to this year's collapse. McGinn is starting to lapse into Silverstein territory here. Last year, it was the salvation of the defense.

Really makes you want to plunk down that $5/month, doesn't it?