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  • #46
    Originally posted by Tarlam! View Post
    Yeah, cause he's white.
    Not because hes white just over hyped coming out of Ohio State. Also at the time we were weak at TE, Favre needed another play maker, and Davis ran 4.3 which doesn't come around very often for a TE.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
      Not because hes white just over hyped coming out of Ohio State. Also at the time we were weak at TE, Favre needed another play maker, and Davis ran 4.3 which doesn't come around very often for a TE.
      Packers were even weaker at WLB though. Robert Thomas was terrible. There were those questioning whether Hawk was a special player though. It didn't work out as well as hoped, but I think TT took the productive football player over the guy with freakish athleticism.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
        Packers were even weaker at WLB though. Robert Thomas was terrible. There were those questioning whether Hawk was a special player though. It didn't work out as well as hoped, but I think TT took the productive football player over the guy with freakish athleticism.
        The guy with the freakish athleticism who wept with joy when we didn't draft him...
        "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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        • #49
          If we pick Davis, history doesn't unfold as it does, so I'm not upset about it now (I was then).

          That said, watching SF play shows you what real ILBs look like.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by th87 View Post
            If we pick Davis, history doesn't unfold as it does, so I'm not upset about it now (I was then).

            That said, watching SF play shows you what real ILBs look like.
            Watching SF play shows you what a real DEFENSE looks like.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by MJZiggy View Post
              The guy with the freakish athleticism who wept with joy when we didn't draft him...
              Yea most players don't want to come to Green Bay until they play for the team and then they love it. Charles Woodson was one of those players who didn't want to come to Green Bay until he plays for the team and now he loves it.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                Packers were even weaker at WLB though. Robert Thomas was terrible. There were those questioning whether Hawk was a special player though. It didn't work out as well as hoped, but I think TT took the productive football player over the guy with freakish athleticism.
                True but you could pick someone up in the 2nd or 3rd round, you don't get chances to draft TEs with 4.3 speed very often.

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                • #53
                  Vernon Davis is a punk. He would have been a cancer in the locker room because I dont think e have a coach that would have straightened him out.
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                  • #54
                    Hawk had a bad year. He wasn't the only guy on defense. (B.J. Raji, Tramon Williams, Sam Shields, Charlie Peprah come to mind.) He wasn't bad in every game--which is what Brandon and some others would have you believe. And he's had 2-3 years where he was pretty good. That being said, I was impressed with D.J. Smith this year. I wouldn't be heartbroken if Hawk were cut, cap hit is a wash but clear the money for future years. I think Smith is going to be a solid starter down the line.
                    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                      Not because hes white just over hyped coming out of Ohio State. Also at the time we were weak at TE, Favre needed another play maker, and Davis ran 4.3 which doesn't come around very often for a TE.
                      davis wouldn't have helped favre at all. if i'm not mistaken, davis was also considered a huge bust up until last season (2010)

                      also, he's the exact opposite of the type of guy you want on your team. he's a massive me first guy. did you hear his post game interview last week? he basically through the whole 9ers team under the bus for not getting the job done, then gave himself all the credit for the win

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                      • #56
                        He was never considered a bust and has never had a good QB in SF while he has been there. Also I heard the interview and while he did credit himself he didn't throw his team under the bus. Thankfully Hawk is a team first guy and packer people, who needs talent anyway in the NFL. Guys defending Hawk are delusional.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                          Did we really pick AJ Hawk over Vernon Davis?
                          Yeah, and then Vermin Davis cried tears of joy on national television because he wasn't going to GB. So let's not pretend that fuckhead would have made the team better.

                          No matter who you put at ILB, they're going to look like shit until we get DEs and OLBs who can play the run or pass rush better than Jarius Wynn and Turd on Wheels or any of his back-ups. All you folks are trying to treat the symptoms and not the illness. But carry on.
                          "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                            Damn well if we are unable to cut him hopefully some sucker will take him off our hands.

                            Were still on the hook for the accelerated signing bonus cap hit if we trade him.

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                            • #59
                              Hawk has 1 or 2 years left in GB. While not spectacular, he has filled a role this team needed.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by MJZiggy View Post
                                The guy with the freakish athleticism who wept with joy when we didn't draft him...

                                VD has manapauase that's even worse than Harlan's.

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