Report: Wells Has Picked New Team

[Scott Campbell]

This whole dust up has nothing to do with Wells.

Woody hates Ted. Always has. After the NFCCG loss to the Giants he even said that the Packers would never get to the Superbowl as long as Ted was our GM.


And this latest opinion just another in his long line of misguided rantings colored by that hatred.

[Scott Campbell]

Maybe you might be wise to go as Patler and I have. Drop the BS as you cannot in this instance defend Ted Thompson and hope to win your argument.

Woody claiming Patler as his latest victim.

[LP]

He really, really hates Ted.


I sense another classic meltdown coming on.

Get your popcorn ready! It's gonna be AWESOME!!!!

[woodbuck27]

Get your popcorn ready! It's gonna be AWESOME!!!!

Originally Posted by Scott Campbell

"He really, really hates Ted.

I sense another classic meltdown coming on." Scott Campbell

NO Scott Campbell. You make it too clear in this post. It's your stinking attitude and low life 'no' manners that forced my position and 'YOU'.

In TRUTH it's this sort of blatant negative attitude towords me that unfortunately forcee a final decision on my part and 'YOU'. A 'final decision' as a Packerrat to place 'you on ignore' for the better good of this Packer forum.

Your not any longer worth my time Scott Campbell. I hiked you out of my life here at Packerrats for good reason. Your a crippling effect of negativity on Packerrats. That's 'a fact' of regret I feel for you. I always have felt that way.

To your accusation to me Scott campbell:

I have TRUTHFULLY stated this before. It's tiring to have to reiterate that:

'I DO NOT HATE Ted Thompson'. I DO NOT HATE.

Please ....take your pathetic BS Vs 'YOURSELF'. Where has that always gotten you Scott? That's right...............NOWHERE GOOD.

Have the best day 'YOU' can. (-:

[Scott Campbell]

You (Woody) really do hate Ted Thompson.

He sure does.

It's like a Jihad.

[pbmax]

MJ, how about the other side of the argument? Why should Wells have had to go back to TT? By the time the Rams made the offer, TT had already showed he didn't give two shits about Wells returning. Everyone always talks about players having ego problems, TT has an enormous ego, and sometimes it hurts the team.

He shouldn't. If he got more money from the Saints he had enough reason to leave. Whether its enough (to relocate) for him is entirely a decision he has to make with his family.

But no one has given a solid reason that he is worth ANY of the extra money.

1. Pro Bowls are popularity contests that are often inaccurate and trail on field results. And as Patler mentioned above, the Packers may have adjusted their scheme to accommodate Wells.

2. Graded out as the best O lineman is nice. I remember the Packers giving Sitton this distinction after 2010, but I haven't seen this for 2011 yet. Perhaps this references McGinn's grades, in which case, its a nice achievement, but Bob doesn't have access to game tape. However, the true problems with this argument are that it is backward looking and that it is relative to the performance of the rest of the line. Does Wells deserve more money because two tackles were injured, Sitton was injured and had an off year and Lang had to rotate to a different position?

3. There is no viable option behind him. I admit, I have used this argument for others before. Its tempting. Tts hard to envision the current roster performing at the same level. But I have a chant I perform when faced with the "irreplaceable" player, to calm the spendthrift soul:

KGB, KGB, Cledtius, Hawk and Diggs. Brooks, Freeman, Johnson and someone named Chillar.

[woodbuck27]

Just for clarification, and I can't think of any other reason, I said I don't FOLLOW McGinn. As on Twitter. I get the sense that neither do you, Wood. That doesn't mean that McGinn is not a source. I would like to see the proof you offer on the point though. Should be interesting. Secondly, you fail in your "destruction of my argument" to note that the information was also presented by PFT. A source that I like. Now, about those sources you were going to give me to show the logic false? The money isn't a valid argument. He was already gone before there was an offer on the table, was he not? You say the contract was AS MUCH AS $6 million more. If he wanted to be in GB as a Green Bay Packer "of distinction," would he not have gone back to Thompson and offered to let him match that deal? You say Wells "overperformed" for his size. Maybe now we get someone who doesn't have to overperform in order to play well. You really do hate Ted Thompson. He took your team to a Super Bowl and and a nearly undefeated season mostly because of team depth, yet you still can't admit that he might just have a clue about what he's doing. Like Patler, I am done talking about Wells. He is a Ram now.

MJ just leave it here and don't go on and on about this decision that is your perogative:

Originally Posted by pbmax

McGinn's Tweet is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen written.


MJZiggy: Your response to pbmax's post:

Now you know why I don't follow him. ... MJZiggy

Now be smart and PLEASE let go of this. Thanks. woodbuck27

[Patler]

You and I are almost on the same page.

Nope. I don't think we are at all, since you have contradicted most of what I have written about it, and I disagree with most of what you have stated.

The summation of the situation for me is this: The coaching staff has wanted and has tried to replace Wells for most of his career. Now, along with TT, they have to replace him. I can't get too worried about that.

[MJZiggy]

MJZiggy I am amazed that you would attempt to rebut me. I hope you prepared for the result of this little 'tete a tete' that we will or won't engage?

Are you ready to be exposed? I'm not sure I want to do that on Packerrats MJ? I'm too much of a gentleman.

Maybe you might be wise to go as Patler and I have. Drop the BS as you cannot in this instance defend Ted Thompson and hope to win your argument.

Do you need me to prove that?

I hope your wise to say 'NO'.


PLEASE MJ.

Ah what the hell...It's the offseason. So, you have proof, prove it, Woody. I haven't seen a bit of proof about anything from you yet, so this should be good.

[woodbuck27]

Nope. I don't think we are at all, since you have contradicted most of what I have written about it, and I disagree with most of what you have stated.

The summation of the situation for me is this: The coaching staff has wanted and has tried to replace Wells for most of his career. Now, along with TT, they have to replace him. I can't get too worried about that.

OK then I am completely wrong. We're NOT on the same page ... even close to that. Knowing you as i believe I do how could that ever be the case.

My next thought. Should I care?

I'm smart. I'll do 'a Scott Wells' ........................................>>>>

Have a nice day Patler.

[smuggler]

We already know Thompson covets draft picks. If the coaching staff feels limited by Wells' skillset, and we get a 4th round comp pick for letting him leave AND we get a slight boost in the run game with a replacement level center, AND Wells is almost 32 and the replacement is younger...

It's too much for Thompson to pay Wells as a top center. You can disagree with the philosophy TT has, but you can't disagree with the move *within* his philosophy. I don't think it was personal/ego for Thompson, but just a business decision. For Wells, of course it was personal, but can you blame him?

Thompson hasn't had too much trouble working his magic on the O-line. If this were the defensive line, I'd be right there with you (and I was last season when TT made the mistake of letting Jenkins walk - a mistake in foresight that's highlighted in hindsight.) This move isn't a mistake.

[Patler]

Thompson hasn't had too much trouble working his magic on the O-line. If this were the defensive line, I'd be right there with you (and I was last season when TT made the mistake of letting Jenkins walk - a mistake in foresight that's highlighted in hindsight.) This move isn't a mistake.

You are hinting at a subject I started as a thread a couple years ago. Scouting staffs being better at evaluating some positions than others. TT and his cohorts seem great at picking WRs, pretty good with O-line. Not so good with D-line. Or is it just bad luck with injuries to Harrell and Neal making it look worse than it is?

I'm not sure where I place them with LBs and DBs. Hawk is a disppointment, in some ways, but Bishop and Matthews are great values where selected. Some of the younger ones look to be good values, too. Collins was a solid pick. Williams and SHields were great pickups for costing nothing. Burnett seems OK, but a lot of wasted picks for CBs.

[woodbuck27]

Ah what the hell...It's the offseason. So, you have proof, prove it, Woody. I haven't seen a bit of proof about anything from you yet, so this should be good.

MJ are you off your 'hormone therapy' ? Your testosterone elevated?

Get off your 'high horse' MJ. I learned a long time ago to never argue with 'dead wrong'. Neither you nor I know all the facts RE: TT and Scott Wells.

To speculate on TT's position as Scott Wells entered Free Agency would be pure blunder bordering on the ridiculous; given TT's personality to reveal little that is on his mind to anyone. TT is for all intents and purposes reclusive,vague to silent in his manner of being the Packers GM.

Haven't you noticed 'this TRUTH' MJZiggy?

Again on the real matter of your angst. You use a source to back up your position that just yesterday you denounced as a writer.... that you refused to read.

Are you confused now about Bob McGinn? Is that writer back in your graces? Have you flip - floped on Bob McGinn?

Again let go of this. Stop !!!!!!!!!!!! You cannot win.

[Scott Campbell]

I'd call this one of Woody's mini tantrums. You guys really can do better than this.

[easy cheesy]

I'd call this one of Woody's mini tantrums. You guys really can do better than this.

Wow... just WOW... that vitriol just spewed forth by the "Woodmaster" towards Ziggy was absolutely over the top and uncalled for. Someone must be off their meds... or doubling the dose... or mixing it up with Drano, Anti Freeze and Boone's Farm.