1st Round trade details, what for what.

[Guiness]

Bengals traded 1/#21 to Patriots for 1/#27 and 3/#93 - 800 for 808

I thought NE got a good deal to move up 6 spots for the cost of a late 3rd, but the chart says that's pretty even.

[Patler]

Vikings also got #4/118 from the Browns (58pts) so the Vikings got 1901.5. Technically not getting full value, but realistically getting a 4, 5, and 7 and still getting the guy they would have taken, which is a great value in my book.

Are you sure about the fourth round pick? One site I looked at it listed the 4th round pick, two did not.

That must be correct, because nfl.com lists 4/118 - "Vikings (From Falcons though Browns)"

[pbmax]

Funny, when you just apply the numbers, the Vikings don't look to have gotten such a steal.
When you apply some rational analysis, they traded down one spot, still got the player they intended to draft anyway, and picked up two extra draft picks. They are getting two picks for nothing.

I agree with this analysis rather than the value chart because there was no risk of moving away from the higher pick (at least in retrospect).

The picks in later years can be valued one round lower for each year out and unless you have a strong feeling how the Redskins will perform, just make it the middle pick of 16th or 17th.

[Patler]

The picks in later years can be valued one round lower for each year out and unless you have a strong feeling how the Redskins will perform, just make it the middle pick of 16th or 17th.

Ya, that's what they usually do, #16 one round later, but that is speculative enough that I prefer "(?)"!

[woodbuck27]

Are you sure about the fourth round pick? One site I looked at it listed the 4th round pick, two did not.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story/_/id/7859778/minnesota-vikings-push-all-right-buttons-day-1

Vikings general manager Rick Spielman proved to be the shrewdest among the wheelers and dealers. He was able to get three additional picks from the Cleveland Browns and still get the player the Vikings wanted -- left tackle Matt Kalil.

[Freak Out]

How much of a football god does RG3 have to become to make that trade look good? One SB?

[MadScientist]

How much of a football god does RG3 have to become to make that trade look good? One SB?

Either 1 SB (and several years in the hunt) or a HOF career. I wouldn't fault the skins if he has a Dan Marino, Jim Kelly or Fran Tarkenton career. If he bombs, Ryan Leaf no longer becomes the worst draft trade-up pick.