Hargrove out 8 games

[Cheesehead Craig]

I wonder if the NFL has more on him given that he was the one who signed the affidavit stating the bounties were going on. Kinda like a plea bargain.

[Bretsky]

My gut tells me he lied

In the eyes of Goodell that is as bad or worse than the crime

[Joemailman]

My gut tells me he lied

In the eyes of Goodell that is as bad or worse than the crime

The NFL determined he lied in 2010. Sounds like he came clean in 2012, but that wasn't enough.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...149915545.html

"Hargrove submitted a signed declaration to the league that established not only the existence of the program at the Saints but also that he knew about and participated in it," the league stated. "The evidence showed that Hargrove told at least one player on another team that Vikings quarterback Brett Favre was a target of a large bounty during the NFC Championship Game in January of 2010. Hargrove also actively obstructed the league's 2010 investigation into the program by being untruthful to investigators."

[pbmax]

The NFL determined he lied in 2010. Sounds like he came clean in 2012, but that wasn't enough.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...149915545.html

"Hargrove submitted a signed declaration to the league that established not only the existence of the program at the Saints but also that he knew about and participated in it," the league stated. "The evidence showed that Hargrove told at least one player on another team that Vikings quarterback Brett Favre was a target of a large bounty during the NFC Championship Game in January of 2010. Hargrove also actively obstructed the league's 2010 investigation into the program by being untruthful to investigators."

I wonder if this was part of his 12-step recovery. Making amends through signed affidavits. And NFL franchise done in by A.A.

[KYPack]

There's a lesson for some of you younger guys. Once you lie, keep lyin'!

[gbgary]

I see you beat me to this punchline.... pays to read the whole thread - except for Woody.

lol

[gbgary]

That's the multi-thousand dollar question. So far, evidence of actual payments and players knocked out of games are pretty scarce.

as far as WE know. THEY may know more. grand juries, federal probes, and senate hearings, somehow get people to talk.

[Scott Campbell]

There's a lesson for some of you younger guys. Once you lie, keep lyin'!

How many skeletons are in your closet anyway?

[Patler]

No cost to hanging on to him since there is no signing bonus and no salary being paid. They can always cut him after the suspension without any regrets.

There is a slight risk of a season ending injury during preseason, so they'd be on the hook for half a season, but that is only $425K.

I was thinking more about him taking a training camp roster spot and practice snaps away from a player that might actually contribute somewhere this season. It's not like he was a hot commodity that the Packers want to hang on to.

On the other hand, Hargrove has been said to be a great locker room presence and an intense, motivating practice guy who works extremely hard. Maybe having him in camp would be a good thing, to "show the way" to a few rookies who have reputations of giving inconsistent efforts.

As for injury pay, when he was signed they said his contract had an injury clause. It is becoming more common for contracts to include reduced salaries if a player goes on IR.

[woodbuck27]

I see you beat me to this punchline.... pays to read the whole thread - except for Woody.

No actually I returned to the forum to post this info. on a thread and it was already done,I read every post in this thread.

Now to the point:

Are you slipping in your memory 'M' ? ............. Favre !?

I witnessed the brutality in the Saints Vs Vikings NFC Championship game. I'm not an Anthony Hargrove fan. Somehow I can't get there.

[woodbuck27]

I was thinking more about him taking a training camp roster spot and practice snaps away from a player that might actually contribute somewhere this season. It's not like he was a hot commodity that the Packers want to hang on to.

On the other hand, Hargrove has been said to be a great locker room presence and an intense, motivating practice guy who works extremely hard. Maybe having him in camp would be a good thing, to "show the way" to a few rookies who have reputations of giving inconsistent efforts.

As for injury pay, when he was signed they said his contract had an injury clause. It is becoming more common for contracts to include reduced salaries if a player goes on IR.

Yes but this is going to turn into an NFLPA 'circus act'. At least it will be that as a PR move.

[mraynrand]

I witnessed the brutality in the Saints Vs Vikings NFC Championship game. I'm not an Anthony Hargrove fan. Somehow I can't get there.

I'm a huge Hargrove fan. I'm grateful to the Saints for stopping the Vikings from getting to the Superbowl, especially with Favre at the reigns. I said during the 2009 season "At some point, some team is going to realize there is a 40 year old fossil behind center and proceed to beat the living crap out of him." I wish it had been the Packers, but I'm OK with it being the Saints. If what the Saints were doing in that game was so, bad, why didn't the officials throw more flags? Favre got the stuffing beat out of him and it led to his final, classic error. All that being said, the guy was a total warrior in that game, and wasn't the reason they lost. Blame Peterson, if you are a Vikings fan. BTW, if you are a Vikings fan:

[woodbuck27]

I'm a huge Hargrove fan. I'm grateful to the Saints for stopping the Vikings from getting to the Superbowl, especially with Favre at the reigns. I said during the 2009 season "At some point, some team is going to realize there is a 40 year old fossil behind center and proceed to beat the living crap out of him." I wish it had been the Packers, but I'm OK with it being the Saints. If what the Saints were doing in that game was so, bad, why didn't the officials throw more flags? Favre got the stuffing beat out of him and it led to his final, classic error. All that being said, the guy was a total warrior in that game, and wasn't the reason they lost. Blame Peterson, if you are a Vikings fan. BTW, if you are a Vikings fan:

I certainly recognize you for what you are 'M' and 'at least respect your candor' in terms of your feeling RE: anything Favre and Vikings. What he suffered in that game is what kicked this whole mess off. It begins right there and too bad Brett Favre had to be so brutally treated for it to come to what it did. He was lights out great that season and if the Vikings OL had somehow offerd him more time the Saints we're going to lose that game. All things considered 'beaten and battered', again, Favre almost got it done.

Yes Favre was always a warrior. That's why I respected him as a player.

'M'.

I'm sitting here posting with a Packers hoodie on and today I wore that with a Green Bay Packer Packer hat.

I'm NOT and won't ever be a Vikings fan. Hard to melt away fifty two years of loyalty 'M'.

[Scott Campbell]

It's going to be some fun for Vikings fans to watch. Lights out take em' down HARD offense. Favre to Moss = Many TOUCHDOWNS over the next two or three seasons.

Lots of wins for Favre and MOSS!! A match made in NFL football heaven. Finally ... as an NFL fan. I get to enjoy that with such intense pleasure.

The Packers Vs Vikings stuff. I leave that up to TT and MM to handle. That's beyond my realm of deepest understanding.

Packer fan?????



Errrr.......not so much in my eyes.

[HowardRoark]

I certainly recognize you for what you are 'M' and 'at least respect your candor' in terms of your feeling RE: anything Favre and Vikings. What he suffered in that game is what kicked this whole mess off. It begins right there and too bad Brett Favre had to be so brutally treated for it to come to what it did. He was lights out great that season and if the Vikings OL had somehow offerd him more time the Saints we're going to lose that game. All things considered 'beaten and battered', again, Favre almost got it done.

Yes Favre was always a warrior. That's why I respected him as a player.

'M'.

I'm sitting here posting with a Packers hoodie on and today I wore that with a Green Bay Packer Packer hat.

I'm NOT and won't ever be a Vikings fan. Hard to melt away fifty two years of loyalty 'M'.

Leave me out of this.