Hargrove out 8 games

[woodbuck27]

Leave me out of this.

Judi Dench never contributes.

[Brandon494]

I'm a huge Hargrove fan. I'm grateful to the Saints for stopping the Vikings from getting to the Superbowl, especially with Favre at the reigns. I said during the 2009 season "At some point, some team is going to realize there is a 40 year old fossil behind center and proceed to beat the living crap out of him." I wish it had been the Packers, but I'm OK with it being the Saints. If what the Saints were doing in that game was so, bad, why didn't the officials throw more flags? Favre got the stuffing beat out of him and it led to his final, classic error. All that being said, the guy was a total warrior in that game, and wasn't the reason they lost. Blame Peterson, if you are a Vikings fan. BTW, if you are a Vikings fan:

Peterson had the fumbles but I have no idea what Favre was thinking at the end of that game throwing that INT, I just know I was celebrating like it was the Packers on the field and not the Saints.

[Fritz]

I think that with the roster at 90 going in, it will be interesting to see if the Pack keeps Hargrove for tc. Let's see...there's Muir, Hargrove, Wynn, Wilson, Raji, Pickett, Neal, Daniels, Worthy...whom did I miss?

I wonder if they'll bring them all in, give less time to Hargrove and Neal, then during the four and eight game suspensions, use that time to evaluate the bubble guys.

I am still rooting for Mike Neal. If he can stay healthy and come back after four games to play well, that really frees Capers up to have some fun with the new dudes. I'd like to see Raji spelled more often, for example.

[Smeefers]

I was thinking more about him taking a training camp roster spot and practice snaps away from a player that might actually contribute somewhere this season. It's not like he was a hot commodity that the Packers want to hang on to.

On the other hand, Hargrove has been said to be a great locker room presence and an intense, motivating practice guy who works extremely hard. Maybe having him in camp would be a good thing, to "show the way" to a few rookies who have reputations of giving inconsistent efforts.

As for injury pay, when he was signed they said his contract had an injury clause. It is becoming more common for contracts to include reduced salaries if a player goes on IR.

With the 137 man roster the team initially gets, I don't see a problem with keeping one guy who's going to be suspended... err.. two guys if you count Mike Neal.

[Scott Campbell]

Peterson had the fumbles but I have no idea what Favre was thinking at the end of that game throwing that INT, I just know I was celebrating like it was the Packers on the field and not the Saints.

That was the most fun I've ever had watching a non Packer game.

[mraynrand]

Peterson had the fumbles but I have no idea what Favre was thinking at the end of that game throwing that INT, I just know I was celebrating like it was the Packers on the field and not the Saints.

I suspect he was thinking pretty much the same thing he was thinking when he threw that INT into double coverage to Larry Brown in the '95 NFCCG instead of throwing for 4 to Chmura, or threw the INT on that weak ass toss towards Driver in the 1997 NFCCG when three other guys were open, or the popup in OT at Philly in 2003: "I'm gonna make a play!"

[mraynrand]

That was the most fun I've ever had watching a non Packer game.

Ahhhhh....great memories..... But what about:



Or:



Or:

Great times!

[Scott Campbell]

I suspect he was thinking pretty much the same thing he was thinking when he threw that INT into double coverage to Larry Brown in the '95 NFCCG instead of throwing for 4 to Chmura, or threw the INT on that weak ass toss towards Driver in the 1997 NFCCG when three other guys were open, or the popup in OT at Philly in 2003: "I'm gonna make a play!"

I think you mean 2007.

[mraynrand]

I suspect he was thinking pretty much the same thing he was thinking when he threw that INT into double coverage to Larry Brown in the '95 NFCCG instead of throwing for 4 to Chmura, or threw the INT on that weak ass toss towards Driver in the 1997 NFCCG when three other guys were open, or the popup in OT at Philly in 2003: "I'm gonna make a play!"

I think you mean 2007.

Silly me. OF course I meant 2007. 1997 was when he couldn't read the blitz in the Superbowl.

[Scott Campbell]

Silly me. OF course I meant 2007. 1997 was when he couldn't read the blitz in the Superbowl.

Understandable. It's hard to keep all those game killing INT's straight.

[Pugger]

I do find it incredible that only 4 guys are getting Goodell's wrath here. I understand the suspensions but not the severity nor the scope. 16 and 8 games? Is this the most severe a penalty handed out to a player who wasn't in trouble with the law like a Vick, Jolly or Burris? And there had to be more than 4 guys in on this bounty business. There are other Saints players that are getting off scot-free IMO.

[Scott Campbell]

I do find it incredible that only 4 guys are getting Goodell's wrath here. I understand the suspensions but not the severity nor the scope. 16 and 8 games? Is this the most severe a penalty handed out to a player who wasn't in trouble with the law like a Vick, Jolly or Burris? And there had to be more than 4 guys in on this bounty business. There are other Saints players that are getting off scot-free IMO.

I get the feeling that Goodell has these 4 dead to rights. But the evidence against other players might not stand up under the intense scrutiny of the appeals process.

[woodbuck27]

I think that with the roster at 90 going in, it will be interesting to see if the Pack keeps Hargrove for tc. Let's see...there's Muir, Hargrove, Wynn, Wilson, Raji, Pickett, Neal, Daniels, Worthy...whom did I miss?

I wonder if they'll bring them all in, give less time to Hargrove and Neal, then during the four and eight game suspensions, use that time to evaluate the bubble guys.

I am still rooting for Mike Neal. If he can stay healthy and come back after four games to play well, that really frees Capers up to have some fun with the new dudes. I'd like to see Raji spelled more often, for example.

Yes it's turning out 'all good'.

Go PACKERS !

[Smeefers]

I get the feeling that Goodell has these 4 dead to rights. But the evidence against other players might not stand up under the intense scrutiny of the appeals process.

I've got a feeling that SC is correct here.

[mmmdk]

TT went & got Hargroves for 3 reason; he's cheap, he's a good vet & TT could stack a quality DL reserve 'cos injuries do happen! TT & the rest of the football world knew Hargroves had a suspension looming.