Official 2012 Training Camp Discussion Thread

[RashanGary]

Appears thus the defensive horrors from last season are corrected.

The addition of Worthy and Perry provides juice for a consistent pass rush. The back-up ilbs are playmakers and shall help in nickel and dime situations. If one of them can retrieve defensive signals and line-up everyone correctly its special teams for Hawk. (Hawk is way overpaid for essentially being a signal caller).

The secondary has numerous athletes with more experience in the scheme. So much so that imo Shields is on the bubble or joins Bush on special teams.

Its difficult to be a top 10 defense given the high powered offense. IMO as long as the defense continues to force turnovers, improve on third down defense and an important stat Capers loves -- an under 80 qb rating, the super bowl awaits.

Hmmmm. . . . It makes so much sense, I'm going to pour me a glass of kool-aid.

[RashanGary]

Question: Justin, that weight you got for Raji, was it the offficial Packer number or did Raji give us that? I wonder how often those weights are updated. I don't think Pickett's weight ever changes even though he does (this year thinner).

Notes from Last Night Stolen from Twitter:

In the GBPG, Raji said he came in at his usual 337. Said they don't realize how hard it is to lose 10 lbs. . . . I remember when Ted drafted him, he said the big worry with that body type is it's really hard to keep the weight down. Apparently Raji has a body type that really, really, really wants to be big.

[RashanGary]

Hopefully the Marshmellow is fine

Otherwise we'll have to hope Sherry comes back sooner

I'm a Marshmallow homer, but when you put it that way, it sounds very bleak

[RashanGary]

It may be nothing serious, but they play a preseason game in 5 days. You don't want Datko protecting The Franchise's blind side.

We might be going up against some Dezman Moses type player who's playing like his next meal depends on it. Yeah, if Datko is playing LT, it might be a good idea to either wrap AR with memory foam or just forget to buy him a plane ticket.

[RashanGary]

When they (the Packers) do good, then people clap for me when I come out in front of the shareholders. If they weren't doing good then they wouldn't clap for me.

Haha. . . . . . Talk about unconditional love, right

[packrulz]

Here is the current depth chart, Bush is starting at CB, ugh: http://espnmilwaukee.com/common/more...0&post_id=9061

[Joemailman]

Here is the current depth chart, Bush is starting at CB, ugh: http://espnmilwaukee.com/common/more...0&post_id=9061

Some thoughts:

EDS not listed on the depth chart at C.

Both Hargrove and Neal listed at the bottom of the DC at their respective positions. Wonder where they'd be if they weren't going to be suspended.

So'oto listed 2 spots ahead of Moses does not coincide with what we've been hearing from camp.

Really good depth at ILB.

Until Sherrod makes it back, depth at OT is a real concern.

[pbmax]

I love when Teddy shows his personality a little bit.

Who asked that question? Its not an employees job to think about their own line of succession. Its their supervisors. It had to be McGinn or Wilde.

[pbmax]

pb, I know you want Sherrod in there. . . . . I really think it's going to be tough for him. He has very little game experience. He hasn't been able to work his lower body since December (7 months.) I don't know if you've done much weight lifting, but 7 months is a really long time. A lot of strength is lost in that time. He has to be at less than 50% right now of where he should be. He was a rookie coming in. He was already below the strength he should be been at. That's a big setback for him. Also, technique and muscle memory are paramount for OL. It's going to take him some time, to get that down too.

Marshmallow is our best bet. He has experience. He's been mostly healthy so he's been able to get his NFL strength and technique down. He worked with Lang last year and is building chemistry with him now. It's not a good thing to lose this guy. We have nobody ready.

I went back through the scouts information on Sherrod. He seems like a low floor, possibly high ceiling (in pass pro) type of guy. He just needs some time to get his legs under him. That could easily happen if he gets a season here to wait in the wings like Rodgers did. Work on all of the little things, get stronger. . . Next year could be quite the competition. This year, I just don't see him being able to do it. That was a really tough break for him (no pun intended.)

Please don't misunderstand. I want Sherrod to win the job. But not by default or injury. I want him to smoke Newhouse and put his butt on the bench. Unless he is at practice first thing Monday with no restrictions, its looking like its not going to happen. As for training, I would be surprised if he has not been working out with weights for some weeks now. I have no info, but I bet that would get approved before being on the field or even running and cutting.

[pbmax]

Herb Taylor will be at LT if Newhouse is unable to go tonight according to Silverstein. Datko is behind him (odd because he has been at RT all week) and then Allred or Allerd. Perhaps we could just call him Shea.

[Bossman641]

Who asked that question? Its not an employees job to think about their own line of succession. Its their supervisors. It had to be McGinn or Wilde.

McGinn of course

[pittstang5]

Newhouse not at practice tonight. Still no word as to why.

I find it funny, that in today's age of technology, no one knows or at least info on Newhouse hasn't been released or at the very least, leaked out.

[pittstang5]

Newhouse out due to concussion.

[Lurker64]

Newhouse out due to concussion.

Jennings too. Both should be available for week 1, if not preseason week 2.

[mission]

Worthy with a big practice tonight... he's stringing them together now. Perry even put Bulaga on his ass in a one-on-one rep.