Finley, Williams & Hawk

[Fritz]

Plater is no friend of Hawk's.

Corrected.

[denverYooper]

Corrected.

LOL!

[Pugger]

If his leadership is such a virtue then why not all four years? Considering the uninspired play from the defense the last two years I find it to be a poor argument.
The excuses for him are dwindling so it's understandable. Last year this discussion would have included how good he is at relaying the calls and getting everyone lined up correctly.

I said he was ONE of the leaders in the locker room. It is apparent Hawk is held in higher regard by his coaches and teammates than by many fans. I do hope we find an upgrade over him this spring! He's basically your average starting ILB but we need somebody a hell of lot more dynamic that him in here.

I did notice Woodson and Rodgers were voted each time. Woodson's leadership is going to be missed.

[Patler]

If his leadership is such a virtue then why not all four years? Considering the uninspired play from the defense the last two years I find it to be a poor argument.
The excuses for him are dwindling so it's understandable. Last year this discussion would have included how good he is at relaying the calls and getting everyone lined up correctly.

The funny thing is, the only year that Hawk had primary responsibility for defensive signals was 2010, which was also the best year they have had defensively for quite a while. Players and coaches both credited his ability in that area frequently during that off-season. In 2011 and 2012 he has played less, and the coaches have given the headset to others who will be on the field more, including Jones this past year when he became a starter.

So, maybe there is something to his abilities as a defensive signal caller?????

[Fritz]

The funny thing is, the only year that Hawk had primary responsibility for defensive signals was 2010, which was also the best year they have had defensively for quite a while. Players and coaches both credited his ability in that area frequently during that off-season. In 2011 and 2012 he has played less, and the coaches have given the headset to others who will be on the field more, including Jones this past year when he became a starter.

So, maybe there is something to his abilities as a defensive signal caller?????

Does this mean that they ought to put the headset on Hawk on the sidelines and let him make the defensive calls???

[Patler]

Does this mean that they ought to put the headset on Hawk on the sidelines and let him make the defensive calls???

No, but he might have a future as a DC.

It was said by Capers and by several players after 2010 that Hawk had two notable strengths - he was exceedingly calm no matter what the offense was doing, if defensive calls were late, etc. and that calm passed on to the other players; and he excelled at making any final adjustments as the offense shifted just prior to the snap. Much of that occurs after headset communication is disabled.

[Fritz]

No, but he might have a future as a DC.

It was said by Capers and by several players after 2010 that Hawk had two notable strengths - he was exceedingly calm no matter what the offense was doing, if defensive calls were late, etc. and that calm passed on to the other players; and he excelled at making any final adjustments as the offense shifted just prior to the snap. Much of that occurs after headset communication is disabled.

I think I've been scarred by the SF game. I have nightmares of Kaepernick running away, away, away from everyone, and when handing off to Gore, the ILb's missing tackles.

And while Bishop may be tough, he can't cover very well and he's not all that fast. I keep thinking the team needs a couple of fast, fast, fast, tough ILB's. Maybe Manning is one.

My vision of the draft has been skewed by that game.

[smuggler]

My vision of the draft has been skewed by that game.

This, I hope, is not also true of TT.

[Fritz]

Well, I doubt highly that it would be. That's why Ted has the job he has, and the rest of us are either internet posters or the Lions' GM.

[Smeefers]

Now that I think of it Fritz, you probably had one helluva resume to send into the Lions a couple years ago after Millen got canned. How did you not get hired?

[Fritz]

The Ford family does not believe in hiring a GM who has never held a position in an NFL team's front office or as a scout.

No, wait, that's not it. They did that with Millen.

Come to think of it, I could've done the job Millen did, for a lot less money.

I do wonder if the Lions will restructure Stafford's contract (they've already restructured two other contracts) so they can play the free agent sweepstakes game. I'd like to see them do that. For all the fear of Detroit as an up and coming team, they are one of the older teams in the NFL with very little cap room.

[Patler]

I do wonder if the Lions will restructure Stafford's contract (they've already restructured two other contracts) so they can play the free agent sweepstakes game.

They might have to restructure Stafford's contract just to meet their rookie salary allocation.

[rbaloha1]

I think I've been scarred by the SF game. I have nightmares of Kaepernick running away, away, away from everyone, and when handing off to Gore, the ILb's missing tackles.

And while Bishop may be tough, he can't cover very well and he's not all that fast. I keep thinking the team needs a couple of fast, fast, fast, tough ILB's. Maybe Manning is one.

My vision of the draft has been skewed by that game.

Me too. Guess what offenses are going to try against the Packer D next year?

More speed and size is greatly needed. Manning needs to bulk up and could be one of the missing pieces.

[sharpe1027]

The Ford family does not believe in hiring a GM who has never held a position in an NFL team's front office or as a scout.

No, wait, that's not it. They did that with Millen.

Come to think of it, I could've done the job Millen did, for a lot less money.

I do wonder if the Lions will restructure Stafford's contract (they've already restructured two other contracts) so they can play the free agent sweepstakes game. I'd like to see them do that. For all the fear of Detroit as an up and coming team, they are one of the older teams in the NFL with very little cap room.

If you had got the job, I bet there would be there would have been some favorable deals that came the Packer's way.

[Fritz]

If you had got the job, I bet there would be there would have been some favorable deals that came the Packer's way.

Nothing I could do in that regard would look much different than most of the clownish moves made by that organization anyway!