Packers Want Jackson "AT THEIR PRICE"

[pbmax]

Fair enough. I wasn't really thinking along those lines.

Usually when people bring up those two, they just want to point out how free agency can work. I'm not saying it can't, I'm just saying that those kinds of deals don't come around every offseason. I think that's easily enough pointed out by saying "when's the last time it happened." TT is constantly looking for those kinds of deals. It's why he snatched up Koren Robinson and Anthony Hargrove. Some times things just don't pan out like you'd hoped though.

That's why I think its way too easy to mischaracterize Thompson's approach as do nothing, cheap or draft pick ego driven.

Essentially the owners, in exchange for being allowed to operate like a trust or monopoly and in the case of the NFL have a completely free talent training system, the NFL has agreed to a compensation system that (by negotiations with the players) is entirely geared toward veterans and tends to reward players after they reach their peak. The players acquiesce to this because each believes they will eventually get the mega contract once they are older.

The one area when the entire system tilts to the players advantage is FA. So while it drives me nuts, I can't begrudge Eugene Parker trying to drive the best bargain. Its the only time the players see a completely free market for their services.

And I can't begrudge Thompson for avoiding over spending because every other talent acquisition source is a better value for the team.

[KYPack]

eugene parker seems like a little bitch trying to make a market for his guys were there isn't one

Sounds like an agent to me.

[woodbuck27]

What kind of cap does Atlanta have? I thought I read somewhere that they are tight up against it so they might not be able to sign Jackson even if they wanted to.

You'd have to check to see if this is 'in fact' up to date but the Falcons and the Packers have similiar amounts of CAP space according to the LINK below.

PACKERS are down to $17,944,927 of CAP-51 space, after taking care of business with ED-S and Sam Shields.

The Falcons according to this table are $17,195,401 below the CAP.

http://www.overthecap.com/nfl-cap-space.php?Year=2013

I've just learned that the Detroit Lions signed RB Reggie Bush and this LINK says they had a value of 'only' $3,625,876 below the CAP. Is that the value before or after signing Reggie Bush?

GO PACKERS !

[run pMc]

I can't begrudge Thompson for avoiding over spending because every other talent acquisition source is a better value for the team.

+1

First, let me say I like Steven Jackson.

I'm either a homer-itis or a heretic, but I'd rather sign Greg Jennings and Cedric Benson than spend $4 million/year or whatever on Jackson. The OL might not give Jackson much daylight and it's a passing league anyway.

I'm not convinced he's the missing piece to a Super Bowl, or the best value for the position and team needs. They ought to be able to cobble together a running game with DuJuan Harris, Starks, Green and either Benson or a draft pick.

[woodbuck27]

+1

First, let me say I like Steven Jackson.

I'm either a homer-itis or a heretic, but I'd rather sign Greg Jennings and Cedric Benson than spend $4 million/year or whatever on Jackson. The OL might not give Jackson much daylight and it's a passing league anyway.

I'm not convinced he's the missing piece to a Super Bowl, or the best value for the position and team needs. They ought to be able to cobble together a running game with DuJuan Harris, Starks, Green and either Benson or a draft pick.

You've set yourself into a win-win position. Smart.

[pbmax]

I think M3 has come to the conclusion that he can't keep Rodgers healthy and upright like 2011 with an O line in transition and largely ignoring the run game. By that I mean currently unsettled LT, Center to a smaller degree and injuries to LG and RT. All the answers might be on the roster or they may need to be drafted. If Sherrod and Bulaga were healthy, I am not sure they aren't looking more to Finley and Jennings rather than one of those and Jackson.

So if you are M3 and T2 and you think you need a year, two, maybe three to finalize the O line, then Jackson makes more sense short term.

I don't think its the only reason, Wilde has covered how the front office has coveted this guy for a while. But that might explain why NOW its worth waiting.

Plus the fact that this is actually helping in the Jennings and Finley negotiations. Usually, time is their enemy as their offers get surpassed.

[LEWCWA]

I just keep thinking no to Jackson....Ahman keeps coming to mind. Left GB with skins on the wall and less mileage than Jackson and was done! RB isn't a 30 somethings gig! Benson seems a much better option to me at alot less money.....at the same time keep searching for that young guy that can step in!

[Tony Oday]

Working on a 3-year contract

[woodbuck27]

I just keep thinking no to Jackson....Ahman keeps coming to mind. Left GB with skins on the wall and less mileage than Jackson and was done! RB isn't a 30 somethings gig! Benson seems a much better option to me at alot less money.....at the same time keep searching for that young guy that can step in!

The incentive to look at a 30 year old RB like Stephen Jackson is based on his conditioning and reliability. This man is steady and he has solid hands to extend our WCO passing game. The thing is do you commit to him for two-three years? The Broncos just said yes to Wes Welker for a two year deal, according to reports. A safe bet for that team in terms of commitment.

[Packers4Glory]

I just don't see a need to pay big money to a RB these days. You can find guys like Harris and numerous others later in the draft. That money should be spent on keeping Jennings and/or securing the tackle position and/or bringing in a safety. Spending it on a RB is a complete waste of cash in a league that is predicated on the pass.

Stephen Jackson is not a 3 down back any more anyway.

[RashanGary]

No way you pay $7M/year for Steven Jackson. I loves me some Ted Thompson. Why do people think it's a bad thing for our GM to want guys at his price?

His way has led to contending football for several years and with the ability to still sign guys like Rodgers and Matthews when their contracts are up.

Harvey, AP makes what? Average 14M/year until age 33 or something like that.

Steven Jackson is half the running back AP is right now, let alone in the late years of Peterson's contract. Jackson can catch better and block better. Obviously, AP is the best pure runner to play in a long time, but Jackson can run too.

Jackson is worth 7M/year for three years IMO.

8 this year, 7 next year, 6 the following. He's worth that. He's a better player right now than Jermichael Finley and I don't think it's even close. We've paid that douche 8m/year for the last two years. Not paying Jackson close to that (if that's what market is), IMO, is absolutely fucking retarded. And then to keep Finley on top of it. . . . . It would be the first time I would truely think TT needs to be fired. That, right there, is absolute lunacy.

[RashanGary]

I'm going to be very disappointed if we don't have Steven Jackson. I'll wait for the details, and not jump off any cliffs, but he'd be a great piece for us and I'm really hoping we get him.

[Packers4Glory]

I'm going to be very disappointed if we don't have Steven Jackson. I'll wait for the details, and not jump off any cliffs, but he'd be a great piece for us and I'm really hoping we get him.

seems like a losing move to me. allocating money that needs to be spent somewhere else.

[Packers4Glory]

Stephen Jackson is not a need, and RB for a team that is and will always be a passing team as long as Rodgers is around is a waste of cash. Take the Jackson money and get a tackle to keep your QB healthy, and you can find a RB to be productive from almost anywhere. The guy we brought in and looked good last yr was selling cars. RB is NOT a hard position to fill in the NFL and certainly not one you lock up millions of dollars for when you are trying to sign your own guys and fill real needs on your roster. There are very few RB i'd pay millions for...and even in GB it's a highly questionable decision given the fact we have the best passing QB in the game. It's far more important to shore up the defense and keep AR upright than it is to spend money on a 30yr RB who has a ton of miles on him already. Let someone else make that mistake.

[RashanGary]

seems like a losing move to me. allocating money that needs to be spent somewhere else.

I don't think I could possibly disagree more. I would certainly agree if you were referencing AJ Hawk and Jermichael fucking Finley, but we're talking about Steven Jackson here. You've got to be kidding me, when you can pay 14M/ year for the combined talents of AJ Hawk and Jermichael Finley without question, then call into question the idea of paying Steven Jackson.

Wake up Packer fans. This is the kind of move that winning teams earn themselves the opportunity to make. Steven Jackson wants to come here because we're winners, and he's a great player. Child, please. This is a good move.