Packers Want Jackson "AT THEIR PRICE"

[swede]

I'm thinking they'll announce at 1:59 pm, CST and the figures will come out to be $3.14159m per.

He just wants a piece of the pi.

[QBME]

He just wants a piece of the pi.

But that's the whole pi.

[denverYooper]

But that's the whole pi.

That's circular reasoning.

[King Friday]

A. Thompson probably isn't going to spend much more than $3M/year on Jackson. He can't. We have to resign the Bloodline this year...which will likely result in an additional $10M+ against the cap in 2013. That eats up a large portion of the $17M or so we have available. I can't see Thompson wanting to eliminate over half of what he has remaining on a 30 year old RB. So, it might take a few days before Jackson signs with us...because he is going to TRY to get more elsewhere.

B. I like the potential addition. Even at an advanced age, Jackson is the kind of guy you need to pick up 3rd-and-short...which has been a huge weakness on this team lately. He is a well-rounded back who can help in all aspects of the game...as a receiver, blocker and runner. He is a guy who will likely be rejuvinated by finding himself on a winning team with some prime-time games. He potentially could be a real asset come December/January in Green Bay. To me, he is Wes Welker at RB. He doesn't make a ton of big plays, but he moves the chains. Getting him at $3M a year would be a nice steal IMO...just as $6M for Welker was a nice steal for Denver.

[Cheesehead Craig]

That's circular reasoning.

You'll come around to it though.

[pbmax]

There are RBs who are effective into their early 30's, with 11 or 12 year careers. Don't know if Jackson can be one of those infrequent ones or not, but Ahman Green had recurring leg problems almost from the start, and each time seemed to be progressively worse. I think Jackson has been pretty healthy through out his career.

He doesn't turn 30 until later this summer, so a three year stint would have him playing at 30, 31 and 32. Emmitt Smith gained almost 6,000 yards from the season in which he was 30 until he retired. He played 6 seasons, 3 with over 1,000 and 2 with over 900. Franco Harris played 4 effective seasons after 30 for nearly 3400 yards. Payton played 4 seasons for 5,000 yards. Curtis Martin played 3 for 3,800 yards. There are a fair number who were still pretty good RBs at 30 and 31, a lot fewer at 32 or later.

Realistically, the Packers want him to be darned good yet in 2013. Anything after that would be a bonus. I suspect a contract will be structured so as not to be crippling whenever the wheels eventually come off.

Jackson has been continuously what people hoped Benson would be, but that he was only a few seasons. I wasn't excited at all about Benson coming to GB, he had too many disappointing seasons for various reasons, and 2012 was just another. Jackson is a lot more interesting to me.

Having a guy like Jackson, a threat both running and receiving, adds a whole new dimension to this offense. It would keep defenses more "honest" and open up the passing game even more than Benson would have, because Benson had no reputation as a receiver.

If it costs them Finley, I'm OK with that; especially if they find a way to keep Jennings.

Eddie George went a long time being physically dominant and then fell off a cliff, though I cannot recall when that was. He was also heavily used and was in the playoffs quite a bit.

If there is uncertainty about Jackson being effective at 32, then much of this depends on protection. If his last year is not guaranteed or necessary to avoid dead money, I could see the Packers paying a premium for two years and having an escape in year 3.

[denverYooper]

But that's the whole pi.

Nah, it's just a rational approximation.

[woodbuck27]

A. Thompson probably isn't going to spend much more than $3M/year on Jackson. He can't. We have to resign the Bloodline this year...which will likely result in an additional $10M+ against the cap in 2013. That eats up a large portion of the $17M or so we have available. I can't see Thompson wanting to eliminate over half of what he has remaining on a 30 year old RB. So, it might take a few days before Jackson signs with us...because he is going to TRY to get more elsewhere.

B. I like the potential addition. Even at an advanced age, Jackson is the kind of guy you need to pick up 3rd-and-short...which has been a huge weakness on this team lately. He is a well-rounded back who can help in all aspects of the game...as a receiver, blocker and runner. He is a guy who will likely be rejuvinated by finding himself on a winning team with some prime-time games. He potentially could be a real asset come December/January in Green Bay. To me, he is Wes Welker at RB. He doesn't make a ton of big plays, but he moves the chains. Getting him at $3M a year would be a nice steal IMO...just as $6M for Welker was a nice steal for Denver.

Good post but I believe that TT will have to sweeten the pot more than $3 Million$ to make Steven Jackson a Green Bay Packer.

[King Friday]

Eddie George went a long time being physically dominant and then fell off a cliff, though I cannot recall when that was. He was also heavily used and was in the playoffs quite a bit.

George wasn't quite as big as Jackson, was he? George also took heavy punishment in college at Ohio State, where he was just as much a workhorse as he was in the NFL. I don't think Jackson had the same wear and tear on him already coming out of college.

I think Jackson can be a very good RB for another 2 years...playing on a playoff contender for a change will probably be enough to carry him through at least 1 year alone, if not 2.

[QBME]

Nah, it's just a rational approximation.

Fine. Point conceded, other wise it could go on forever....

[Zool]

George wasn't quite as big as Jackson, was he? George also took heavy punishment in college at Ohio State, where he was just as much a workhorse as he was in the NFL. I don't think Jackson had the same wear and tear on him already coming out of college.

I think Jackson can be a very good RB for another 2 years...playing on a playoff contender for a change will probably be enough to carry him through at least 1 year alone, if not 2.

Had to look it up after you asked

Wikipedia on Steven Jackson

"In 36 games, he carried 743 times for 3,625 yards for a 4.9-yard average and 39 touchdowns while adding 680 yards and 6 touchdowns on 66 catches and 240 yards with a touchdown on 7 kickoff returns. His 4,545 all-purpose yards rank second in school history, while he ranks third on the school’s all-time scoring list with 276 points."

Wikipedia on Eddie George - data isnt nicely formatted like Jackson's data was

"George had over 600 rushing attempts"
"George left Ohio State second in school history in career rushing yards (3,768) and third in rushing touchdowns (44). Overall, he finished with 4,284 all-purpose yards, 45 touchdowns, and a 5.5 yards per carry average."

[denverYooper]

Fine. Point conceded, other wise it could go on forever....

For real.

[woodbuck27]

While surfing the web and checking on Steven Jackson's FA status. I came upon this and please don't get excited.

News should be 'REAL NEWS' with Pic's ie Ted Thompson smiling and standing beside Stephen Jackson smiling, sometime soon.

We're aware that the RC Church signs more popes than Ted Thompson signs 'impact' free agents, but has Stephen Jackson been sighted in Atlanta?

Never the less, for what it's worth and that's nothing official. There are rumblings (treat it as a rumour) that Dan Patrick reported that the PACKERS signed Stephen Jackson to a 3-year deal (no mention of money) on Green and Gold today on ESPN Milwuakee.

GO PACK GO!

[denverYooper]

While surfing the web and checking on Steven Jackson's FA status. I came upon this and please don't get excited one way or the other. News should be 'REAL NEWS' with Pic's ie Ted Thompson smiling and standing beside Stephen Jackson smiling sometime soon.

We're aware that the RC Church signs more popes than Ted Thompson signs 'impact' free agents, but has Stephen Jackson been sighted in Atlanta?

Never the less:

For what it's worth and that's nothing official. There are rumblings that Dan Patrick reported that the PACKERS signed Stephen Jackson to a 3-year deal (no mention of money) on Green and Gold today on ESPN Milwuakee.

GO PACK GO!

I've heard this as well, but I doubt it because I haven't seen anything from Wilde lately.

[woodbuck27]

I've heard this as well, but I doubt it because I haven't seen anything from Wilde lately.

You know TT. He might have it in place with SJ to go on the QT until after the draft.

Ted 'Thricky Teddy' Thompson.