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  • #31
    Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
    Harvey, AP makes what? Average 14M/year until age 33 or something like that.

    Steven Jackson is half the running back AP is right now, let alone in the late years of Peterson's contract. Jackson can catch better and block better. Obviously, AP is the best pure runner to play in a long time, but Jackson can run too.

    Jackson is worth 7M/year for three years IMO.

    8 this year, 7 next year, 6 the following. He's worth that. He's a better player right now than Jermichael Finley and I don't think it's even close. We've paid that douche 8m/year for the last two years. Not paying Jackson close to that (if that's what market is), IMO, is absolutely fucking retarded. And then to keep Finley on top of it. . . . . It would be the first time I would truely think TT needs to be fired. That, right there, is absolute lunacy.
    Seven million per is going to cost you Finley and someone's extension unless they start backloading contracts.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
      Seven million per is going to cost you Finley and someone's extension unless they start backloading contracts.
      It would be about the 6th largest contract on team, if not higher. For a back in M3's system. McCarthy is sometimes overplayed as pass-pass-pass, but he isn't ground chuck either. I am OK with Jackson with a medium deal under $5 per.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #33
        And he'd be one of the top 5 players on the team too. HE's worth it.
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • #34
          Hmmmm. . . . 29 year old AJ Hawk or 30 year old Steven Jackson. . . . . Is it even a fucking question?

          I can't believe you people. Seriously, this is a no brainer.
          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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          • #35
            Alright, I gotta go. This conversation already pisses me off and I'm not going to have a bad night over it.

            You guys are retarded.



            Peace.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • #36
              JH, I think he was, possibly is, that good. But for a 3 year deal at 7 per (which is going to include some kind of upfront money) he will need to stay that good until 33. Have not watched him closely like we saw Ahman, but the wheels will come off sometime.
              Last edited by pbmax; 03-13-2013, 09:26 PM.
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #37
                $7M a year for Jackson? God no. That would put him among the top 4 RB in the league.
                Go PACK

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                • #38
                  I'll take Finley even if he's maddeningly inconsistent. So was James Jones. Finley is more important in this offense than a 7 mil+ RB

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                    Alright, I gotta go. This conversation already pisses me off and I'm not going to have a bad night over it.

                    You guys are retarded.



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                    Stop bitching, fer Christ's sakes....


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                    • #40
                      where did 7 million a year come from

                      did someone just pull that number out of there ass?

                      i'm thinking we're looking at reggie bush type money (4 a year) or maybe a touch more, like 5. and the bush deal is a 4 year deal

                      maybe 3 years in the 11 to 14 million overall deal for SJ

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Iron Mike View Post
                        Stop bitching, fer Christ's sakes....


                        http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/...n-bay-packers/
                        not seeing or finding confirmation anywhere

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Iron Mike View Post
                          Stop bitching, fer Christ's sakes....


                          http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/...n-bay-packers/
                          lol, that's a hell of a source! They quote a Demovsky tweet...in which he says Jackson and the Packers are talking, not that he's signed! He later clarifies it tweeting "I'm not saying it's done. Just saying they're talking..."

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                          • #43
                            I know, I was just trying to get you guys all lathered up.....
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by red View Post
                              where did 7 million a year come from

                              did someone just pull that number out of there ass?

                              i'm thinking we're looking at reggie bush type money (4 a year) or maybe a touch more, like 5. and the bush deal is a 4 year deal

                              maybe 3 years in the 11 to 14 million overall deal for SJ
                              That was Justin's first stab at a target price. Others disagree.
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                                JH, I think he was, possibly is, that good. But for a 3 year deal at 7 per (which is going to include some kind of upfront money) he will need to stay that good until 33. Have not watched him closely like we saw Ahman, but the wheels need to come off sometime.
                                There are RBs who are effective into their early 30's, with 11 or 12 year careers. Don't know if Jackson can be one of those infrequent ones or not, but Ahman Green had recurring leg problems almost from the start, and each time seemed to be progressively worse. I think Jackson has been pretty healthy through out his career.

                                He doesn't turn 30 until later this summer, so a three year stint would have him playing at 30, 31 and 32. Emmitt Smith gained almost 6,000 yards from the season in which he was 30 until he retired. He played 6 seasons, 3 with over 1,000 and 2 with over 900. Franco Harris played 4 effective seasons after 30 for nearly 3400 yards. Payton played 4 seasons for 5,000 yards. Curtis Martin played 3 for 3,800 yards. There are a fair number who were still pretty good RBs at 30 and 31, a lot fewer at 32 or later.

                                Realistically, the Packers want him to be darned good yet in 2013. Anything after that would be a bonus. I suspect a contract will be structured so as not to be crippling whenever the wheels eventually come off.

                                Jackson has been continuously what people hoped Benson would be, but that he was only a few seasons. I wasn't excited at all about Benson coming to GB, he had too many disappointing seasons for various reasons, and 2012 was just another. Jackson is a lot more interesting to me.

                                Having a guy like Jackson, a threat both running and receiving, adds a whole new dimension to this offense. It would keep defenses more "honest" and open up the passing game even more than Benson would have, because Benson had no reputation as a receiver.

                                If it costs them Finley, I'm OK with that; especially if they find a way to keep Jennings.

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