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So the bBears brought in Schwenke for a visit. He's projected to go in the 3rd round, but they don't have a 3rd round pick. He's the guy I want at center, but I guess I'm not alone. What are the odds that the Bears take him with their 2nd round choice?
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Just covering all angles. You never know what will happen on draft day. They could trade down early and end up with a 3rd round pick. Or maybe they have a 2nd round grade on him. Or maybe they think he'll be available in the 4th round. Who knows?Originally posted by smuggler View PostSo the bBears brought in Schwenke for a visit. He's projected to go in the 3rd round, but they don't have a 3rd round pick. He's the guy I want at center, but I guess I'm not alone. What are the odds that the Bears take him with their 2nd round choice?I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
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Probably less likely than they would be to trade up or down for him. Could happen though if they are really in love with him. I'd like to be looking for a RB, Safety, or even WR at that point in the draft and I see a few options later that I like just as much.Originally posted by smuggler View PostSo the bBears brought in Schwenke for a visit. He's projected to go in the 3rd round, but they don't have a 3rd round pick. He's the guy I want at center, but I guess I'm not alone. What are the odds that the Bears take him with their 2nd round choice?
The classic Ted Thompson offensive lineman prospect profile looks about like:
6'4"
310 lbs
Positionally Ambiguous (but left tackle in college)
Midround Talent
at least a 4.6 in the short shuttle
at least a 7.6 in the 3-cone
Mean Streak
That profile fits Barbre, Sitton, Lang, Newhouse (minus the mean streak). Also fits Nick McDonald and EDS (minus midround talent). But nobody Ted has selected is that far off from it. In this draft guys a couple of guys that fit that profile are:
David Quessenberry, San Jose State, who was also a former TE suggesting he may have the good hands needed to be a center. He should go in the early 4th.
Hugh Thornton, Illinoiss who was also a 2 time state wrestling champ like Wells. Should go in the late 5th where we have two picks.70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
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Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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I like my safeties to be faster than my linebackers.Originally posted by pbmax View PostTyler Dunne @TyDunne 3m
The mocks continue. Former NFL scout @MoveTheSticks has the #Packers taking S Jonathan Cyprien
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/mock-d...itter_jeremiah70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
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Dr. Samuels, Professor of Anthropology: Which one of you clowns put Under armour on my Homo Neanderthalus Africanus figure? Swenson!Originally posted by packrulz View Post
[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
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From Wilde at Sulia:
I'm not sure #Packers GM Ted Thompson and ESPN's Mel Kiper are pals, but they see RBs the same. Kiper quote:
“I've been saying it for 35 years -- you can find running backs at any point in the draft. I would never draft a running back in the first round. And when you see what (Baltimore's) Bernard Pierce did, you see what (Seattle's) Robert Turbin did, you see what (Vick) Ballard did at Indianapolis, obviously what Alfred Morris did with the Redskins, it's another statement as to why and a validation as to why that philosophy has worked over the years."
In his eight drafts in Green Bay, Thompson has selected a not-so-grand total of six running backs or fullbacks: Jackson (second round), fullback Korey Hall (sixth round) and halfback DeShawn Wynn (seventh) in 2007; fullback Quinn Johnson (fifth) in 2009; Starks (sixth) in 2010; and Green (third) in 2011.
We'll have more on the running back position as part of our ESPNWisconsin.com draft series, which kicks off next week.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Just as frustrating to me is how long it takes for MM to find the stud in his backfield if he has one. I remember it took most of a season for Grant to become the guy despite immediate success. It took just as long for Harris to start getting a serious amount of carries despite being the only one showing success.Originally posted by pbmax View PostFrom Wilde at Sulia:
I'm not sure #Packers GM Ted Thompson and ESPN's Mel Kiper are pals, but they see RBs the same. Kiper quote:
“I've been saying it for 35 years -- you can find running backs at any point in the draft. I would never draft a running back in the first round. And when you see what (Baltimore's) Bernard Pierce did, you see what (Seattle's) Robert Turbin did, you see what (Vick) Ballard did at Indianapolis, obviously what Alfred Morris did with the Redskins, it's another statement as to why and a validation as to why that philosophy has worked over the years."
In his eight drafts in Green Bay, Thompson has selected a not-so-grand total of six running backs or fullbacks: Jackson (second round), fullback Korey Hall (sixth round) and halfback DeShawn Wynn (seventh) in 2007; fullback Quinn Johnson (fifth) in 2009; Starks (sixth) in 2010; and Green (third) in 2011.
We'll have more on the running back position as part of our ESPNWisconsin.com draft series, which kicks off next week.70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
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Getting back to the wish list....my anti-wish list - what I hope the team does not draft with the first or second round picks...
A tight end (why do so many mocks have the team taking a tight end? Is Jermichael seen as gone already?)
An offensive tackle or guard.
An outside linebacker.
A cornerback."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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Originally posted by packrulz View Post
For that to likely happen, according to my analysis. Ted Thompson has to trade up ahead of the RAMs who may very well target SS Jonathan Cyprien, if they pick a WR at pick #16.
Ted Thompson has to be prepared to move up to the Bengals #21 pick.
Cost to do that would be pick #26 and their fourth Rd. pick in this draft at #122 and another 4th Rd. pick in 2014.
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