Good news I hadn't thought about - from rookie camp

[Fritz]

McGinn calls out Packer hypocrisy which fills up this board.

Which high round picks are injury free?

If the Packers are paranoid about injury, why would they take a guy with an injury history in the second round? That makes no sense, thus I suspect McGinn got some bad info when he claimed the Packers were crazy paranoid about taking injured guys.

If you're suggesting no high round pick is injury-free, then the lacy pick still makes no sense, given injury concerns dropped him down out of the first and most of the second rounds - down past all those other high round picks you seem to be suggesting also have an injury history.

[smuggler]

Oh. Turns out McGinn is wrong about some things after all.

http://bloggingthebeast.com/2013/05/10/how-much-does-your-teams-front-7-weigh/

[3irty1]

McGinn never said the front 7 was the 27th lightest, he said the whole roster was. He's wrong about plenty of stuff without putting words in his mouth. Or ink on his column or whatever.

[denverYooper]

McGinn should probably just stay away from math and stick to his inside sources.

[smuggler]

McGinn imagined that we needed to beef up the defense to compete with 'big, physical' teams like the 49ers. He claimed that there was a change in some organizational principle toward making personnel decisions that focused on bigger players.

If you'll notice, the 49er defense features one of the lighter front sevens in the league. It's almost as if ability to play football and weight aren't specifically correlated within the range we're scrutinizing.

Meanwhile, if you look at the Packer front seven, it's already quite beefy relative to most teams in the league. Then you look at the draft and you notice we focused on athleticism and length instead of sheer bulk.

Add it all up, and you have a reporter - not an analyst, a reporter - who happened to be wrong. Whatever he based his claim on - be it his own imagination or an 'insider' source - his theory ended up being nothing more than conjecture. It had the added benefit of getting the ADHD squawkers to turn their heads and +1 his pageviews.

[pbmax]

To be fair, he did say they need to beef up the lines on both sides of the ball.

To be accurate, I think the Packer O line is probably behind the D front seven in terms of weight rank in the League. You could argue that the Packers needed more prototypical length at DE, however, rather than Raji or Pickett at DE.

To be critical, the data McGinn used was (I believe someone emailed him about this) from a roster list at the beginning of the season and covered the entire roster, not simply the lines or the D front seven.

To be demanding, someone should write WHY the Packers beef in the front seven doesn't produce better results in run D. That would be an article worthy of the fans.

To be considerate, I think Ty Dunne has one angle on this with his recent stories on athletic players in the recent draft.

To be cynical, I don't expect to see an article about adherence to role in the scheme to be featured in JSO until they play the Vikings or another dominant runner. Even though that was demonstrably the case for the Vikings playoff game, though Webb at QB complicated the story.

[pbmax]

McGinn imagined that we needed to beef up the defense to compete with 'big, physical' teams like the 49ers. He claimed that there was a change in some organizational principle toward making personnel decisions that focused on bigger players.

If you'll notice, the 49er defense features one of the lighter front sevens in the league. It's almost as if ability to play football and weight aren't specifically correlated within the range we're scrutinizing.

The organizational directive part of the article was poorly reported. If there was such an animal, McGinn doesn't seem to have gotten the essence.

[pbmax]

Pete Carroll might be a goof of a head coach in my eyes, but he can coach a defense.

So this could bear watching:

Packer Report @PackerReport 11h
#Packers tryout signee Brandon Smith spent last year transitioning from WR to CB on advice of Seattle's Pete Carroll. http://t.co/iKpQcJLm22

[bobblehead]

To be critical, the data McGinn used was (I believe someone emailed him about this) from a roster list at the beginning of the season and covered the entire roster, not simply the lines or the D front seven.

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Biggest flaw in using the entire roster (remember I said when using stats, the parameters make the decision more than the numbers) is that we have one of the youngest rosters in the league. Younger guys tend to be a bit skinnier, still growing into their frame.

As I mentioned (or thought, don't remember if I posted it) the packers DLine is actually pretty big and physical. They were not shoved around by the 49ers. They played a good game, but were not properly prepared to contain Kapernick. Physically they are easily equal to SF.

[rbaloha1]

McGinn should probably just stay away from math and stick to his inside sources.

Stop reading McGinn.

[3irty1]

I wouldn't say they played a good game, at least not most of them. If you go back and watch though Daniels does standout as a brightspot. That little bastard is a great player IMO.

[rbaloha1]

Biggest flaw in using the entire roster (remember I said when using stats, the parameters make the decision more than the numbers) is that we have one of the youngest rosters in the league. Younger guys tend to be a bit skinnier, still growing into their frame.

As I mentioned (or thought, don't remember if I posted it) the packers DLine is actually pretty big and physical. They were not shoved around by the 49ers. They played a good game, but were not properly prepared to contain Kapernick. Physically they are easily equal to SF.

Not calling you out but after 2 games it is clearly evident the niners o-line owns the packer d-front. Weight wise the Packer pigs are okay. CK had success mainly due to blocking o-linemen overpowering the front to create gaps and running lanes. Gore also ran for 100+ yards.

SF CAR YDS AVG TD LG
Kaepernick 16 181 11.3 2 56
Gore 23 119 5.2 1 26

Kaepernick's 99 option rushing yards are the most by any QB in a game during the past three seasons, and his 75 scramble yards are a personal career high. --Kaepernick rushed for 102 yards and a touchdown out of the pistol set, the most by a QB in the past three seasons. His 12.8 yards per rush was the highest by any rusher out of the pistol in the past five seasons (min. 5 attempts). espn

Over 100 CK yards came out of formation -- that is over 200 yards rushing from formations and not scrambling. Packer pigs got slaughtered.

[rbaloha1]

For good reason, because Kaepernick killed the Packers with the read option. Of his 181 yards rushing in the playoff game, 99 came on seven read-option carries, including a 56-yarder for a touchdown. And that’s not counting the option plays when the read was to hand off rather than run the keeper.
Pete Dougherty

When a qb can dictate like CK your o-line is dominating the front seven.

[3irty1]

Because he ran around them? It takes 11 guys working together to give up the kind of long runs that made up the bulk of that yardage.

[rbaloha1]

Because he ran around them? It takes 11 guys working together to give up the kind of long runs that made up the bulk of that yardage.

Yes it does. Plus you have to win upfront physical matches which the Packer pigs failed to do enough of the time.

It is no different if a qb stands in the pocket with five seconds plus to throw -- what is the o-line doing to the d-line?