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    Secret Superstar: Brad Jones

    Nathan Jahnke ... May 24, 2013

    2013 Starter?

    " There should certainly be an interesting battle at the inside linebacker position in Green Bay in 2013. In 2010 Desmond Bishop was one of the best inside linebackers in the game, but he regressed some in 2011 and missed all of 2012. The Packers have seemed content leaving A.J. Hawk in the starting lineup, and to their defense Hawk had by far his best season in the pros in 2012, even if it wasn’t as good as Jones. All three have their own weaknesses, with Jones’ being that he missed too many tackles. If he can cut down on those he could put himself among the best inside linebackers in the league.

    All three players are getting paid starting money, but unless the Packers get creative only one or two will be on the field at a time. If it were my decision, Jones would be a starter. "
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  • #2
    Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...ar-brad-jones/

    Secret Superstar: Brad Jones

    Nathan Jahnke ... May 24, 2013

    2013 Starter?

    " There should certainly be an interesting battle at the inside linebacker position in Green Bay in 2013. In 2010 Desmond Bishop was one of the best inside linebackers in the game, but he regressed some in 2011 and missed all of 2012. The Packers have seemed content leaving A.J. Hawk in the starting lineup, and to their defense Hawk had by far his best season in the pros in 2012, even if it wasn’t as good as Jones. All three have their own weaknesses, with Jones’ being that he missed too many tackles. If he can cut down on those he could put himself among the best inside linebackers in the league.

    All three players are getting paid starting money, but unless the Packers get creative only one or two will be on the field at a time. If it were my decision, Jones would be a starter. "
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    Bishop regressed ?
    Jones one of the top ILB's ?

    The author IMO is a moron
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    • #3
      The article attempts to use circumstances and salary to make Jones appear to be on the verge of stardom.

      Hogwash.

      TT type player that is versatile and not a troublemaker.

      Solid player that imo is better as an old and the nickel backer.

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      • #4
        I didn't see the regression in Bishop in 2011. The defense regressed in 2011, but that had more to do with the loss of Nick Collins and the injury to Tramon Williams. Is it possible though that Jones is better than normally given credit for? The Packers must think so since they gave Jones starter money this year, while reportedly putting Bishop on the trading block. I certainly could see Jones being better this year as he had to learn the ILB position in a hurry last year.
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        • #5
          wow

          i have yet to see an ounce of starter potential out of jones, much less superstar potential

          he's a ok backup at best

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          • #6
            Originally posted by red View Post
            wow

            i have yet to see an ounce of starter potential out of jones, much less superstar potential

            he's a ok backup at best
            That's the general consensus around here, but a lot of people who matter are thinking differently.

            Looking at his contract numbers, is he making more than Hawk this coming year? Things that make you go Mmmmm
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            • #7
              I'm a Jones fan. He's a heck of a player IMO. I like how he takes on blocks. I like how he covers. I like how he runs. I like how he fills. In some ways, I like him better than Bishop (running, covering). In some ways I like Bishop better than him (tackling, big hits, pass rushing.)

              I'd give Bishop an 8 out of 10 grade, Jones a 7.0 and Hawk a 6.5. Bishop might not be all of the way back and Hawk had his best year. Never know what will happen this year.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                That's the general consensus around here, but a lot of people who matter are thinking differently.

                Looking at his contract numbers, is he making more than Hawk this coming year? Things that make you go Mmmmm
                I hope you meant "hmmmm", homo

                That capitol M just makes it worse too, haha.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                  That's the general consensus around here, but a lot of people who matter are thinking differently.

                  Looking at his contract numbers, is he making more than Hawk this coming year? Things that make you go Mmmmm
                  Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                  I hope you meant "hmmmm", homo

                  That capitol M just makes it worse too, haha.
                  Mmmmm mmmm.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                    I'm a Jones fan. He's a heck of a player IMO. I like how he takes on blocks. I like how he covers. I like how he runs. I like how he fills. In some ways, I like him better than Bishop (running, covering). In some ways I like Bishop better than him (tackling, big hits, pass rushing.)

                    I'd give Bishop an 8 out of 10 grade, Jones a 7.0 and Hawk a 6.5. Bishop might not be all of the way back and Hawk had his best year. Never know what will happen this year.
                    Jones is a slip and slide guy not close to Bishop in taking on blockers.

                    Clearly Jones is the best coverage guy but Hawk and Bishop improved in this area.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
                      Jones is a slip and slide guy not close to Bishop in taking on blockers.

                      Clearly Jones is the best coverage guy but Hawk and Bishop improved in this area.
                      Jones had long arms and fights well with his hands for an ILB. Bishop blows through guys better, but also gets shoved out of the way easier too.

                      Out of our ILB's, Jones is the best at keeping blockers off of his body.
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                      • #12
                        Bishop does not take on blockers, his job is to run by them or around them. Hawk's job is to take on blockers and he is mediocre at best at it, he does not get disengaged often enough.

                        Since Jones' job was to replace Bishop, he wasn't supposed to bang with Guards and Centers either. Don't know if he is better than Hawk, though being 6' 3" is not going to help with traditional ILB technique. He was late to recognize plays compared to the other two which is to be expected but this was getting better until the 2nd reg season Vikings game and the 49ers.

                        I thought Bishop did regress in 2011 because he needs a lane to get to the ball and often there wasn't one is 2011. But whether that was him or his teammates is hard to discern.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
                          The article attempts to use circumstances and salary to make Jones appear to be on the verge of stardom.

                          Hogwash.

                          TT type player that is versatile and not a troublemaker.

                          Solid player that imo is better as an old and the nickel backer.
                          I never thought B. Jones was ever star material either.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                            Bishop does not take on blockers, his job is to run by them or around them. Hawk's job is to take on blockers and he is mediocre at best at it, he does not get disengaged often enough.
                            I've never noticed Hawk taking on appreciably more blockers than Bishop or Jones. It seems to me Jones and Bishop line up more on the strong side of the offense (the side where there is typically an extra blocker.)

                            Hawk gets plenty of tackles. Just as many per game as Bishop and Jones. I don't see him breaking off blockers and making tackles. I see him running and dragging guys down mostly. Bishop seems to play more downhill than either Jones or Hawk. Jones seems to play a similar style to Hawk, just better in coverage.

                            I've read the weak-side backer in the 3-4 defense tends to have more space to work in. It's strange that the strong-side backer seems to be Bishop and Jones, yet Hawk is toted (by you) as being the guy who's supposed to take on blockers. I don't know, where are you getting this from?
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                            • #15
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                              Last edited by RashanGary; 05-27-2013, 01:04 AM.
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